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Doctors Kill 4,200 Babies Today in America

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“Today, over 500 Doctors legally inserted dilating rods into the uterus of 4200 mothers across the United States. Once penetrated, the Doctors inserted a plastic aspirating tube into the uterus to then suck the living infants out of the mothers’ wombs. The resulting action ripped the babies’ bodies limb from limb and successfully removed them from the mothers’ wombs. The mothers were unharmed, but their children did not survive. All 4200 mothers approved of the action and most were happy with the results. No funerals are planned for the children that died today, but a memorial commemorating their deaths will be observed once a year in January. There have been no successful plans to stop these legal attacks on the unborn children and it is estimated that over one million lives will be lost this year alone.”

Now, let me ask you. Did this headline shock you!? Is it horrifying to you that such a thing is happening in the United States… land of the free? Have you ever seen this headline ever printed in any national newspaper in our country?

Why the big uproar about all the deaths in Iraq?! Why is the number one news in our nation about our soldiers dying each day when we cannot even contain our own actions in our own land? Every day you hear about soldiers and innocent people dying in the war over in Iraq but you never hear about the brutality that exists in our own nation.

Hey! America has a far serious problem in its own back yard compared to what’s happening over in Iraq!
When will America wake up and take responsibility for its own actions in the land?!


Who would take care of these...

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Who would take care of these children if they lived? Most likely the mothers made their choices based upon the fact they were young and stupid and made a mistake.


Submitted by banderson on January 5, 2008 - 3:18pm.

A child is never a mistake....

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A child is never a mistake.

Mr. Anderson, since when does being young and stupid give anyone the authority and right to kill.
Do you realize that 1/3 of your generation is not living because of the "mistakes" that their parents made in conceiving then. Do you have any idea of the impact on our nation that this holds Mr. Anderson?
The baby-boomer generation provided our nation with a workforce of about 800 million, your generation is sending out a workforce of 400+ million. That's about half.
With all of the advancements made in our nation medically, socially, economically, etc., the only explanation for this is the murder of these young people's "mistakes".
Think about it, and be careful who you speak for.


Submitted by satsume on January 5, 2008 - 5:08pm.

Do you realize that we as a...

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Do you realize that we as a species on Planet Earth can over populate the Earth if we keep reproducing like ******roaches?

Planet Earth can only sustain a limited number of creatures before we start having problems. Some people say we have already reached that point.

Now about more people in the workforce...good jobs are getting scarce, I would prefer it not to be any harder to get a good job.


Submitted by banderson on January 5, 2008 - 8:14pm.

Oh my goodness! Are you...

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Oh my goodness! Are you truly not aware of the millions of couples wanting to adopt in this country? You insinuated what is a sad truth, people kill their children in this country because they honestly feel they have no CHOICE. How ironic, the proponents of this sort of infanticide tell us it is all about "CHOICE". Because we don't find the consequences of our actions convenient, does not give anyone the right to kill.


Submitted by arcy on January 5, 2008 - 7:44pm.

Well legally in this...

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Well legally in this country, the womb is the mother's and if she chooses to get an abortion it is completely legal. I do not see anything wrong with it.


Submitted by banderson on January 5, 2008 - 8:23pm.

Hold on a minute here...

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Hold on a minute here banderson. You're a homosexual so since you can't reproduce in your chosen lifestyle, you don't get a vote on this subject.


Submitted by just1opinion on January 5, 2008 - 10:22pm.

Well you Holy Rollers seem...

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Well you Holy Rollers seem to put your opinions in my blog, so I am gonna do the same back to ya! ;) Have Fun!


Submitted by banderson on January 5, 2008 - 11:15pm.

Now banderson, I know you'll...

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Now banderson, I know you'll want me to keep God out of this discussion so let's talk scientific facts here. Pro-murder people say that it's the mothers body so she can make the choice of having an abortion. But, the unborn child has DNA that is seperate from the Mom's and unique. That means the mother is giving permission to a Dr. (who is sworn to save lives) to terminate the life of another person based on DNA testing which is recognized by the US and our court system. This same sequence of events taking place a few months later would be called murder.


Submitted by just1opinion on January 5, 2008 - 10:33pm.

Praise God! That's an...

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Praise God! That's an excellent point made!


Submitted by arnijodi on January 5, 2008 - 11:04pm.

A few months later the child...

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A few months later the child would be breathing on it's own and using it's mouth to eat. Big difference from what it's life in the womb is. The mother should have the choice, to keep the child or not!


Submitted by banderson on January 5, 2008 - 11:44pm.

The choice comes when you...

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The choice comes when you decide to have sex or not. At some point we all have to admit that it is too late for us to change our mind and try to reverse our decisions. This is another example of our society not wanting to take responsibility for our own actions.


Submitted by just1opinion on January 5, 2008 - 11:54pm.

Will you ever learn that the...

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Will you ever learn that the Bible is not everything to everyone?

Sometimes condoms break and the unexpected happens. Get over it!


Submitted by banderson on January 6, 2008 - 1:40am.

Maybe it's Part of "God's...

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Maybe it's Part of "God's Plan"

If you believe in God, then you are familiar with God’s Plan. "God's plan" is the way that believers traditionally explain things like amputations, cancer, hurricanes and car accidents. Even if something bad happens, it is actually good because it is part of God's plan.

If you have ever seen this book, you know how pervasive the concept of God’s Plan is. The book is called “A purpose driven life.” According to the cover, it is a #1 New york times best seller. It has sold more than 20 million copies.

We find this remarkable paragraph in Chapter 2:

Because God made you for a reason, he also decided when you would be born and how long you would live. He planned the days of your life in advance, choosing the exact time of your birth and death. The Bible says, "You saw me before I was born and scheduled each day of my life before I began to breathe. Every day was recorded in your book!" [Psalm 139:16]

There is also this:

Regardless of the circumstances of your birth or who your parents are, God had a plan in creating you.

And this:

God never does anything accidentally, and he never makes mistakes. He has a reason for everything he creates. Every plant and every animal was planned by God, and every person was designed with a purpose in mind.

Under this view of the universe, God plans everything.

If you are a normal, intelligent person, and if you think about God’s plan for more than 30 seconds, you quickly realize that God’s plan is ridiculous, and impossible. Let’s look at four implications of God’s plan.

Implication #1 – God plans all abortions

The book says: "He planned the days of your life in advance, choosing the exact time of your birth and death." Let's examine one simple implication of this statement. What this means is that God has pre-planned every abortion that has taken place on our planet.

In addition, the mother who requests the abortion and the doctor who performs it are blameless. Since it is God who planned the abortion of the child (God chose the "exact time" of the death), the mother and doctor are simply puppets who are fulfilling God's plan. You can also see that all the Christians who are fighting against abortion are missing the point. They are actually fighting against God's plan, and their fight is completely futile. God is the all-powerful ruler of the universe, and his plan is for more than a million children a year to die in the United States through abortion. Each one of those abortions was meticulously planned by God, so fighting against abortion is a totally wasted effort.

Implication #2 – God plans all murders

In the same way, if God chooses the "exact time" of death, then all murders are planned by God, and murderers are simply God’s puppets. Murderers are completely blameless.

Implication #3 – God plans many rapes

Since God decided when you would be born, and God knew who your parents would be, It means that every rape resulting in a conception must be part of God’s plan. All of these rapists should be rewarded for fulfilling god’s plan.

Implication #4 – You have no free will and prayer is meaningless

Who will you marry? You have no choice. Your spouse was pre-chosen by God for you so that you would create the children who are a part of his plan. You also have no choice in the number of children you will have -- God has pre-planned their births. Where will you live? God plans that too.

So let's review

Do you believe that:

1. God plans all abortions?
2. Murderers should go free?
3. Rapists should be rewarded?
4. You have no free will?

Probably not. Therefore, you cannot believe in God’s plan.

It is time for us to state the truth. “God’s Plan” is ridiculous. There is no “plan”. The statement "It is part of God's plan" is one of those meaningless ideas that believers use because they do not think about what they believe. If they would think, and if they would look at the data all around them, they would very quickly realize that God’s plan is impossible and that God is imaginary.


Submitted by banderson on January 6, 2008 - 2:06am.

Thank you for proving my...

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Thank you for proving my point. You know very little about the Bible. Go study what part Satan plays in events today. Read what Jesus said about him. God KNOWS all, it never says He does all.


Submitted by just1opinion on January 6, 2008 - 10:02am.

Exactly he does all, he...

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Exactly he does all, he knows all, and he plans all, including rape, torture, and abortions.


Submitted by banderson on January 6, 2008 - 11:45am.

Why do you only read part of...

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Why do you only read part of my statement. You are the typical person who 'tries' Christianity. You read the parts that fit your beliefs and leave the rest. I said above that you need to read and study what the Bible says about Satan and his influence. After you have studied (not just read) what it says and what Jesus said about Satan we can continue this discussion. Until then I will consider you ignorant on this subject (the Bible)and I do not carry on debates and/or discussions with ignorant people. Also, you keep saying that Christians need to keep the Bible and God out of these discussions. Well, God makes up the very belief system that I have. Me leaving God out of any discussion would mean you need to leave your viewpoint on homosexuality and abortion out of these discussions. We are a product of what we believe and if any of us leaves those beliefs and convictions out of this or any discussion we have nothing left to discuss.


Submitted by just1opinion on January 6, 2008 - 2:07pm.

Then move to a country that...

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Then move to a country that has a religion based government, I hear they have religious police that come around and whip ya when you sin!


Submitted by banderson on January 6, 2008 - 3:16pm.

What I dont understand...

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What I dont understand is....why respond to this troll?


Submitted by FritoBandito on January 6, 2008 - 9:10pm.

Troll? Must be another one...

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Troll? Must be another one of those make believe characters you guys believe in...

All joking aside now,

Someone needs to speak up on politics, The Leader doesn't do it, and no one else around here seems to want to.

Just because I see something in a different view then you, or I have ideas that you think won't work doesn't mean that I am wrong, nor does it mean you are right.

Perhaps everyone should have an unbiased view of things, the world would be a much better place.


Submitted by banderson on January 6, 2008 - 11:24pm.

You speak up on politics and...

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You speak up on politics and get no support from anyone, but continue to push your thoughts and ideas. We are not for Gay marriage or equal opportunities for your Gay marriages. you use religion when it helps your argument and don't acknowledge it when it is against your beliefs. Time to grow up "Peter Pan."

Perhaps we should have an unbiased view of things....You don't, not even close.

You can say the same about me if you want, but my bias against homosexuality..., well i can live with that. IN THIS LIFE AND THE NEXT.


Submitted by PokerPro on January 7, 2008 - 12:02am.

If I don't push my thoughts...

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If I don't push my thoughts and Ideas people like YOU will walk all over them and crush them and true equality and respect may never come.

I do not believe in God and I do not believe in heaven or hell. You wanna know what I believe is "god"? I'm not going to tell you what my religion is because it is none of your business, religion is a personal thing, and thats how it should be.

As far as speaking up and getting no support from anyone...All it takes is one voice, it may start out small but the movement is getting bigger. You may not see it, and you don't need to see it!

Now onto your religion and me. I use your religion against you haha, bet you've never had that done before. I have no way of knowing what religion you believe (unless you tell me) nor do I care, my point of using your bible against you, was to show that you don't know everything. Very Simply The Bible has been used many times in the past to support an idea or value that today most would think is repulsive such as:
1. It was used to protect Slavery
(causing the civil war).
2. It was used to prevent independent women from being equal to their male counterparts
(causing the feminist movement).

And thats just the tip of the iceburg; and that is how I feel it is being used against the homosexuals.

You need to remember that regardless of what you believe that EVERYONE has the right to believe what they choose and live the lifestyles they want without discrimination. This is The United States of America where we promote Freedom, Equality, and Justice for All. The is not "The United State of God" this is not a religion based country, and religion should NOT be involved in government. The forefathers of this country knew that religion can be oppressive and discriminative; that's the reason most of them came over here to get away from the oppressive religions, and oppressive governments.

I for one will not stand and be oppressed or discriminated by anyone! I will fight for equality to my last breath!

Now I know your religion; I know what most of you think on some issues. Plain and simply support your argument without using religion as your crutch, and I won't mention anything more against you religious Christians. I do not have a problem with Christianity when you keep it to yourself, it is legal and to be honest if the government would try to outlaw it I would probably be supporting Christians in their fight to keep it legal...but that day will never come. So now differences aside can we ever get along?


Submitted by banderson on January 7, 2008 - 1:00am.

Also note that the ONLY time...

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Also note that the ONLY time I have slammed the bible or religion in general is after you used it against me. Once again sustain your point with out using the bible or religion and I'll listen, plain and simple.


Submitted by banderson on January 7, 2008 - 3:02am.

No support from...

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No support from anyone?
Hmm.
I looked in the mirror this morning - and I am still someone.
Who is this We you are referring to, hope you do not include Me in your We.
I support Bandersons right to his beliefs... as I support yours.
Banderson may not believe in a 'next life', I never asked.


Submitted by Madrigorne on January 10, 2008 - 1:02pm.

It seems to me since you've...

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It seems to me since you've started posting the various threads have taken a decidedly nasty note and I no longer enjoy posting or reading these threads. I think I will take the advice of a previous poster and "ignore the troll". Good, thoughtful discussions are one thing, but constantly attacking other posters and ridiculing them is another matter entirely. I wish the Leader Staff could put a stop to all this.


Submitted by flowerladytoo on January 7, 2008 - 10:42am.

Why is it when topics comes...

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Why is it when topics comes up like gay marriage or abortion or other 'sensitive' topics, religion gets brought into it? Why can't people simply state their opinions without bringing God into it? For example:

"In my OPINION, any form of abortion is wrong. The fetus in that woman's womb is an actual person with a right to live."

"In my OPINION, every child is a blessing. There are a lot of couples who aren't able to have children of their own."

See, that wasn't so hard and I didn't have to bring God into it all because I'm sure He has more important things to worry about than this thread. Oops! I said 'God' and I capitalized the first letter of His name. Oops!

Religion is more of a private matter in my opinion. I am of the Christian faith but I don't go singing my praises from the rooftops when a sensitive topic like this is brought up. Some people say abortion is a woman's right, some say its murder. I say a child has a right to live. Thats just me. It seem like when topics come up like this, everyone seems to have 'found their faith' and must let everyone know about it.

And then, you have, assuming, grown men and women bickering back and forth about something that wasn't even the topic in the first place. Kind of reminds me of the yahoo chat rooms back in the day. This topic went from abortion opinions to religious opinions--and everyone knows that no one wins in religious opinion wars. Move on.


Submitted by northoftown on January 10, 2008 - 6:33am.

I may be missing something,...

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I may be missing something, but flowerladytoo mentioned good discussions are good but personal attacks are bad. I quite agree...so why would she use the "troll" word and not just say the name of the poster who was the problem? It seems to me that if the "troll" attacks personally it is bad to her but it is ok to perpetuate the personal attacks on someone whose opinion she disagrees with? Seems to me she was using the term to ridicule - is that not what she is against here?


Submitted by charlie_horse113 on January 10, 2008 - 1:10pm.

If you reread my post I was...

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If you reread my post I was quoting a previous poster when I used the word "troll".


Submitted by flowerladytoo on January 10, 2008 - 4:36pm.

Oh so that makes it ok for...

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Oh so that makes it ok for you to use it?


Submitted by banderson on January 10, 2008 - 6:08pm.

When it comes to abortion, I...

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When it comes to abortion, I have this to say: Two wrongs don't make a right.

Yes it is legal in our country but maybe that's the problem. Our laws need to change.

Think about this: Michael Vick. He didn't kill a person. His crime is against animals and he is sentenced to what, 2 years in prison? Yes I agree what he did is wrong but my beef is why does our country protect animal rights over human rights? Little babies in their Mother's womb can feel the pain of being ripped apart. How desensitized and selfish our society has become. We are the "it's all about me generation" me me me.

And the God I serve doesn't plan rapes, murder and all kinds of unspeakable evil. The god who orchestrates that is named Satan and he wants humanity to blame God for everything that's wrong in the world. God has given us free will. He doesn't make us love Him or serve Him. Today you have a choice who you will serve.

Thanks Arniejodi for being a voice for the unborn.


Submitted by agatehunter on January 24, 2008 - 10:36am.

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