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Concerning the tightening of smoking restrictions, listen people, this is your government's latest attempt at restricting your freedom. What will it be next? Maybe overweight people will be restricted from fast food restaurants, think about it!


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WE the people have spoken...

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WE the people have spoken and WE don't want to continue breathing in the second hand smoke of others. Second hand smoke has been proved to cause cancer, lung probems and even kill people. That is the reason for the ban. Now, obesity is a disgusting problem in our society but looking at and watching overweight people certainly won't cause any long term health affects to you!! (Except maybe motivate you to work out!)


Submitted by Chacha on November 26, 2006 - 6:22pm.

Obesity is a problem. I...

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Obesity is a problem. I agree the freedom of choice is most important and I also understand how others didnt want to be affected by second hand smoke. Choices are available and the argument can be made that staff could find other jobs in non-smoking establishments and the other argument is why should staff have to change careers. There is a fine line between freedom of choice and negatively affecting others with those choices. The point made by Chacha is true that watching an overweight person wont cause any affects to you, but it will cause affects to our health care system in insurance rates. As Mr./Mrs. Obesity enters into a long term care facility, I will be affected by my insurance premiums to cover their needs. I am not for restrictions on freedom of choices but I am in favor of education. Informing the public that a triple fat burger has 5000 calories or 2 times the recommended daily amount. Remember the "this is your brain on drugs" with the frying egg. That's education. How about a balloon filled with water which squirts out the water, that would be "this is your heart", and then a balloon filled with axel grease slowly oozing out the grease "this is your heart on fast food". Education and visualization. That's the way to go.


Submitted by ChristyChristensen on November 28, 2006 - 10:32pm.

I would agree with the...

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I would agree with the Education and visualization theory as noted earlier on this forum. Most people don't understand what they do to their bodies, because it doesn't hurt(as in pain) to eat all those high fat, high calorie scrumptious meals prepared for us at our favorite restaurants. I am not sure that making laws to ensure that people make the "right" choice is the answer though. In my opinion, we must also remember that we are country founded on choices. I enjoy these types of discussions and hearing all sides, so I hope that it keeps going.


Submitted by Scott Hornemann on November 29, 2006 - 3:58pm.

After watching last nights...

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After watching last nights Smoking Session on local TV, I had to comment. I am shocked by the number of people who are willing to give up their freedom of choice. The majority of those approaching the podium for a smoking ban were health care career related individuals. Each gave their interpretation of statistics and these presentations became very redundant quickly. Many missed the big question. Some did not.

The big question is: Do we allow government to take away our freedoms from us. Mr. Bertram identified that question very well. Whereas a following speaker mocked him for those in military are not fighting for our right to smoke. This is a major point in our history if this is passed as other similar issues will follow. Should we have goverment regulate how much cologne and perfume people can wear? I may be allergic to these and why should my choice of dining be limited to my health problems. Maybe we should have all of our residents vehicles fixed so no one can go over 55 mph. 55 mph is the law right? Why should the automotive industry be allowed to make vehicles which go 140mph? The most realistic follow up issue will be our obesity and fat intake. Could our smoking ban be a path to hang our "no fatty foods" ordinance on in the future? I am sure all of the same people who attended last night will show up with similar statistics and stories about loved ones. Mr. Bertram and others will go up and speak about freedom of choice. Mr. Bertram will be mocked by someone who doesnt think our military is over there fighting for our right to eat a greasy burger. Most will miss the big question.

Back to the smoking issue. The bowling "center" owner, Gail Plaisance, made some very good points about air exchange and dedicating a small area for smoking. I feel the business owners are intelligent and creative people. These are the people who should be spoken with. How do these business owners want to handle it? Instead we are asking everyone in the entire city how to handle Mr. Plaisance's business. What next? Is everyone in the entire city going to be asked what color I be allowed to paint my house? Mr. Plaisance knows his customer base, Mr. Bertram knows his. They realize how much business they will lose or gain based on their professional history. I doubt any one of those approaching the podium knows more about his business than Mr. Plaisance. For those claiming business increased in other communities when smoking bans came, I would think Mr. Plaisance would be the first one at the podium saying "let's do this so I can have an extra 20% in revenue!".

I used to be a smoker. I no longer am. I dont care to be around those when smoking. I dont like that my insurance rates are increased due to smoking. I question why those who smoke do BUT I do not feel I should have the right to take away that freedom of smoking a legal over the counter product. If we do have that right to take away other's freedoms, then the next item I want on the council's agenda is a dietary ban on all food which is not necessary. All red meats, high fat dairy, pies, cookies, candies, ice cream, and of course all fast foods. None of this is good for us. This City of Hutchinson can be on the map as the first rice cake and water community with an average life span of 108.

Although I shouldnt have to, I am worried someone will take me serious. I am being sarcastic.

What I really hope that does happen is; the businesses are met with and what comes from this is stickers which need to be placed on all public door entrances. The green sticker which reads "NO SMOKING" and the red sticker which reads "SMOKING ALLOWED" will be seen from the car, and when someone pulls up in a vehicle they will see what the business does. If it is true that businesses revenue increase with no smoking policies then those which allow smoking will lose business, and will soon change their ways.

For those that still insist that they like to go to a particular restaurant but do not because they have smoking, well that's just too bad. If we have the right to manage other people businesses, then I want Mr. Plaisance to start carrying 9.5 pound bowling balls as 10 pounds is too heavy for me. I won't do business with his bowling center because I may drop that 10 pound ball on someone else's toe and then we will have foot doctor's at the podium talking about the affects of foot injuries.

Let's all remember the big question here. Do we open the door for our local government to take away our freedoms? OR does our local government work with our businesses instead?


Submitted by Stephanie Wendorff on December 1, 2006 - 8:47am.

For several years I have...

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For several years I have heard the smoking issue compared to eating unhealty foods, driving faster than the speed limit, government's taking away of rights, and now even bowling balls!

It seems to me that the people who are arguing the smoking issue by comparing it to the other things are missing the point.

People have a choice to drive over the speed limit, eat unhealthy foods, pick up bowling balls, or whatever.....

However, non-smokers are not able to get away from smoke!

Yes, I have heard the arguments that I should just patronize businesses that don't allow smoking. That's fine, and I do. However, what about outside events? Shouldn't I be able to be outside and not breathe someone elses secondhand smoke?

In the past year, I have taken my young son to two demo derbys. Both times, people around us started to smoke in the seats around us. The smoke came right to us! One time, a lady even began turing her head a bit to blow the smoke backwards (toward us, in the next row up) so that the wind wouldn't blow it straight back into her face as she smoked. I couldn't believe it!

And no, we couldn't move. The bleachers were packed. It was standing room only. I am disabled and walk with a cane. To get up and stand, away from the crowd, for the entire event would not have been possible. After an hour, I very gently and politely asked (both times) for them to refrain from smoking because it was blowing right back at my son and me. Each time, the person became angry and continued to smoke. In fact, one person's response was "It's a free country. There are no laws against smoking here."

Another example is at outdoor ballgames. We love to attend games, but it is very difficult to sit in the stands. Inevitably, someone will be smoking and we end up breathing it.

Another example is leaving buildings. There are times we have walked out of a building, only to breathe in a large amount of smoke. People stand outside, smoking, and you don't always even see them until you are in the midst of the smoke.

How about waiting in outdoor lines, where the person in front of you is smoking and the smoke is blowing straight back.

Even at schools sometimes people are smoking just outside the doors. How do one avoid breathing smoke then? I know they are supposed to be smoking a certain distance away from the doors, but that is not always the case. I have seen people actually move the cigarette disposal closer to the door!

Now, it might sound like I am being picky about this, but

my young son has lung problems and it is detrimental for him to breathe smoke. He could become very ill. Also, because I have had several surgeries each year for the past four years, I am not supposed to be around any smoke. It can inhibit the healing of large, open wounds that I have had to deal with for the past several years.

What are we supposed to do? Stay home all the time?

I agree that the government is getting involved in many of our "personal freedoms." But until people use common sense (in regards to others), I feel the government SHOULD step in and create laws.

If people choose to harm themselves, they should be able to choose that, whether it be smoking, eating unhealthy or bowling. But those who choose not to be subjected to it should NOT be forced to.

This is the core of the issue.


Submitted by mnkitten on December 2, 2006 - 8:20am.

Fact #1: Tobacco is a LEGAL...

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Fact #1: Tobacco is a LEGAL product in this
State.
Opinion: Business owners should have the right to determine which LEGAL activities are allowed to be conducted in their places of business. If the city council and anyone else needs a "cause", work on the eradication of illegal activities like meth use, vandalism, underage drinking, sexual predators....need any more?


Submitted by joed on December 5, 2006 - 3:22pm.

Maybe that is what we should...

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Maybe that is what we should work on then.....making tobacco illegal.

The problem is, money talks and that industry is full of money.

Sad.


Submitted by mnkitten on December 5, 2006 - 4:31pm.

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