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It was a cold rainy day when I pull up in front of the old jail annex building in Mudbaden, just outside of Jordan. I haven’t been feeling well in the past few weeks and the gloomy weather hadn’t picked up my spirits very much.

As I sat in my car over looking the building I was reminded of the e mails I received about this building. I even was stopped at the store and was told about this building and the activities that went on. As I observed the building the strongest impression was that of an old person.

I sat in my car and waited a short time. Mathias Baden, the editor of the Jordan Independent was to meet me here after his assignment. I decided to bring in my equipment and meet the manager of the building, Mike Briese. As I waited for Mathias we chatted a little about the building and I explained to him about ghost hunting and the e mails I had received about the building. When Mathias joined us Mike started to tell us about the history of the building.

The building had started its life out as a health spa. The sulfur rich mud that was dredged from the Minnesota River was used to help people with arthritis and rumatisum. When the spas polarity declined, the building was sold to an order of Monks from Notre Dame to use for a retreat. From there Lynnville took it over for their drug and alcohol treatment center. I could see why each of these places chose this location. The beauty of the wilds of the Minnesota River bottom surrounds the area making it a very relaxing place where one could recuperate and regenerate the soul.

Scott County took the building over and it was an annex for the jail for minor offenses up until 4 years ago. There was a need for a regional training center and Scott County was going to build a new building, but after they realized that this building could be remodeled for this purpose. The committee carefully planed the remodeling of the building. There are classrooms throughout the building, some with simulators so law enforcers, jail guards and transit officials, could use. This is like a laser tag room as realistic as possible; it will even shoot back at the student. They also have a fireing range for handguns and rifles, which they are hoping to open it up in the fall for hunters to practice. There is also a tackle building across the street for fire fighters and law enforcers to practice their skills. The class rooms will be offered for not only law enforcers and fire fighters, but they will also open their doors for corporate to have safety training at these locations.

As Mike talked about the plans they have for the building you can hear the pride in his voice. He should be proud indeed. The plans for what the building will be used for have been carefully planned out and have been updated fully. They even have open plans for improvements, as they need it. I looked at Mathias and I smiled, this would be a wonderful story for the paper. This building will be bringing some business to Jordan, law enforcers, and firemen would be needing a place to stay and the Nicolet B&B is right in town as well as the motel off 169.

As we started to tour the building, Mike introduced me to Tim who is in charge of the maintenance. Tim has worked in the building for 11 years. I asked Tim if he had heard rumors of any spiritual activity in the building, he had, but through all his years he has never experienced any. He looked for logical explanations for some unusual activities, such as pipes making noises and the old elevator starting up on it’s own. Tim had repeated some of the things that I had been told, such as hearing doors open and close, and that the inmates would also claim the their doors would open and close during the nigh. I also have heard of shadows being seen in the hallways.

As we continued the toured of the building, I felt an old person once again. But I also felt someone following us. The feeling was so strong that I kept taking photos of the halls as Mike was explaining the classrooms to us. As we toured the building I carried a tape recorder with me and I also left a recorder on the 3rd floor.

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I was very impressed with what they did with the building and their plans for the future. I wondered if there was any spirits still lingering in the building. I felt at least 2 spirits, an old person and someone following us around the building. Were there more? Had they tried to talk to us as we walked around? I wouldn’t know until I listened to the tapes and looked at the photos.

On the 3rd floor lounge area, I picked up this voice of a man whispering next to me saying mam http://media.putfile.com/mam-51

In the basement where the vats were in the floor I picked up this man calling my name http://media.putfile.com/old-jail-man-saying-kathy

After we talked to Tim and continued out tour, a woman voice called out to us to come back

http://media.putfile.com/woman-saying-come-back



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However the most disturbing evp I got there was in the dinning room. Here was a voice of the old person that I had felt. I had left the tape recorder on the table and after a long silence I had picked up on 2 evps in that room

You can hear an old person begging to help me die

http://media.putfile.com/old-jail help me die

This evp was very loud and clear once again you can hear a old person yelling for help but she calls me Elizabeth She said “Help me woman…Elizabeth

http://media.putfile.com/old-jail-woman-yelling

I had left my tape recorder on the 3 floor. This is where I had picked up a man saying mam to me when I was there. When I listened to the recorder that I had left there, I heard a gruff sounding man saying I’m coming. This was the only voice I picked up on the tape. You can hear me coming shortly after this voice to pick up the tape

http://media.putfile.com/Im-comming

After hearing the voices on the tape recorder I had tried to make an appointment to return to the building with my group. My goal was to do a complete investigation, and to help the spirits cross over. Mike is very closed mined and refused to listen to the evps I sent him. Even though I would like very much to help the spirits, I must respect other’s beliefs on this matter. Perhaps, when the spirits are ready they will make themselves known to the people there and perhaps then I will be given the chance to help them cross over.

Kathy Ghost Hunter
kathy@michael-rennie.com


Submitted by Kathy Ghost hunter on July 13, 2008 - 11:52am.

There are no such things as...

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There are no such things as Ghosts (Dead people's spirits that are floating around on earth), but there are such things as demons who imitate dead people's voices.


Submitted by arnijodi on July 13, 2008 - 8:24pm.

Here in America we have...

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Here in America we have religious freedoms. You are free to believe you want to believe in and I will respect your beliefs. However I expect you to do the same.

The stories I write are true ghost stories. There are spirits that walk among us. In over a decade of ghost hunting, I have only came across one entity, which is something you would call demons. Religion teaches us that there is life after death. Ghost hunters have proven that this is true; there is life after death. That is a wonderful thing knowing that you will see your love ones after you pass.


Submitted by Kathy Ghost hunter on July 14, 2008 - 8:39pm.

If you say that religion...

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If you say that religion teaches us life after death, what do you base this on. Do you base this on the Bible or do you base this on church tradition? I choose to base this on the Bible. I choose to believe, that when you die, you either go to heaven or you go to hell. So, there is life after death. But it is a life that is continued in hell, or it is a life continued in heaven.

Ecclesiastes 9:4-6 teaches us that the dead will never again have a part in anything that happens under the sun.

5 For the living know that they will die,
but the dead know nothing;
they have no further reward,
and even the memory of them is forgotten.

6 Their love, their hate
and their jealousy have long since vanished;
never again will they have a part
in anything that happens under the sun.

In Luke 16:19-31 Jesus tells the story of the rich man and Lazarus. In this story we learn of there being two compartments for the dead until the Great White Throne Judgment (Revelation 20:11f.). Also in the story the rich man asks for Lazarus to be sent back to warn the living. Abraham says it would do not good because if they will not believe God's written word, they will not believe though one should rise from the dead.
http://www.gotquestions.org/ghosts-hauntings.html

It is fun sometimes to believe that there are ghosts that linger among us, but it simply is not true.


Submitted by arnijodi on July 15, 2008 - 3:16am.

" Their love, their hate and...

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" Their love, their hate
and their jealousy have long since vanished;
never again will they have a part
in anything that happens under the sun."

Maybe they come out after the sun goes down.


Submitted by Aura_Lee on July 15, 2008 - 2:16pm.

Ghosts after sundown... I...

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Ghosts after sundown... I don't think so!

Read what Job 7: 9-10 says on the matter:

9 As a cloud vanishes and is gone, so he who goes down to the grave does not return.

10 He will never come to his house again;
his place will know him no more.

To read more about where the dead go when they die, read these two excellent articles on the subject:

http://www.itiswritten.com/tvprogram/episode/2007/09/1079

http://www.biblestudy.org/basicart/what-happens-at-the-moment-of-death.h...


Submitted by arnijodi on July 19, 2008 - 4:17am.

Maybe the ghosts didn't read...

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Maybe the ghosts didn't read the rule book. I'm sure if they knew the rules they'd stop coming. Probably just a misunderstanding.


Submitted by Aura_Lee on July 21, 2008 - 7:07am.

I feel that my stories help...

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I feel that my stories help to enlighten and educate people. Even those who do not agree with what I have written, the seed of enlightenment has been planted in them whether they like it or not.

This will make some people feel very uncomfortable because now they are questioning their faith and they feel the need to try to rectify it by posting bible verses.

Throughout the ages enlightenment has always came with opposition. Louis Pasture was criticized for coming up with the idea of pasteurizing milk to eliminate the germs in it. Before that formaldehyde was put into milk to keep it fresh, as a result of this it killed hundreds and thousands of children. Even before that when science and logic thinking started to emerge, they burnt people at the stake for thinking differently. Just because they had a radical idea that the earth revolved around the sun, or that there are germs that make us sick. Holistic healers were labeled as witches and burnt alive.

But we are no longer in the dark ages, and we are in a country where freedom of speech is our right.

Spirits do walk the earth, and I have proof to back up my claim, not just words. I will continue to post my stories, and those who do not believe it, or disagree with it should have enough respect for the other people who do.


Submitted by Kathy Ghost hunter on July 21, 2008 - 10:09pm.

You'll always have at least...

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You'll always have at least 2 readers.


Submitted by Aura_Lee on July 22, 2008 - 3:21pm.

There will be others...

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There will be others watching. Always watching!!!


Submitted by Garagemonkey on July 22, 2008 - 8:10pm.

Spirits do walk the earth. I...

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Spirits do walk the earth. I agree with you. But these spirits are demonic spirits who sometimes disguise themselves as ghosts in order to deceive people into believing that they can communicate with their dead loved ones.


Submitted by arnijodi on July 23, 2008 - 10:56am.

I was wondering what that...

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I was wondering what that demon was doing at the costume shop last month. Makes sense now.


Submitted by Aura_Lee on July 23, 2008 - 1:37pm.

I think I may have seen one...

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I think I may have seen one of those demonic spirits. He was trying to get me signed up for some cell phone/dingleberry/laptop service and said I would be able to communicate with anybody, anytime.


Submitted by Garagemonkey on July 23, 2008 - 4:07pm.

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