As of 1:03 a.m. Nov. 5, all 28 McLeod County precincts have been counted. With 21,003 registered voters in the county, 19,124 ballots were cast. Voter turnout was 91 percent.
The unofficial results — compiled from data from the McLeod County Auditor's Office and Minnesota Secretary of State — are as follows:
• Hutchinson City Council race
MAYOR CITY OF HUTCHINSON
Steve Cook: 6,042 votes, 97.51 percent
Write-in: 154 votes, 2.49 percent
COUNCIL MEMBER SEAT 3 CITY OF HUTCHINSON
Eric Yost: 3,287 votes, 50.66 percent
Mary Christensen: 3,171 votes, 48.87 percent
Write-in: 30 votes, .46 percent
COUNCIL MEMBER SEAT 4 CITY OF HUTCHINSON
Chad Czmowski: 3,673 votes, 57.28 percent
Raymond Norton: 2,700 votes, 42.11 percent
Write-in: 39 votes, .61 percent
• Hutchinson City mosquito control referendum
Yes: 4,171 votes, 60.32 percent
No: 2,744 votes, 39.68 percent
• Hutchinson District 423 School Board race (elect three)
Julie Ashbaugh: 5,013 votes, 23.92 percent
Joshua J. Gehlen: 3,158 votes, 15.07 percent
Keith R. Kamrath: 5,317 votes, 25.37 percent
Tom Schlueter: 2,815 votes, 13.43 percent
Jim Waldron: 3,348 votes, 15.98 pecent
Robert Puls: 1,148 votes, 5.48 percent
Write-in: 155 votes, 0.74 pecent
• Glencoe-Silver Lake District 2859 School Board race (elect three)
Sarah Everding: 3,253 votes, 31.09 percent
Gary V. Schreifels: 3,017 votes, 28.83 percent
Kevin L. Kuester: 3527 votes, 33.71 percent
Write-in: 666 votes, 6.37 percent
• District 423 school bond referendum vote
ISD 423 QUESTION 1 NO. 423 (High School)
Yes: 4,078 votes, 43.85 percent
No: 5,222 votes, 56.15 percent
ISD 423 QUESTION 2 NO. 423 (Elementary)
Yes: 3,675 votes, 39.96 percent
No: 5,522 votes, 60.04 percent
• McLeod West operating levy referendum vote
Yes: 772 votes, 44.91 percent
No: 947 votes, 55.09 percent
• McLeod County Board of Commissioners races
COUNTY COMMISSIONER DISTRICT 1
Ray Bayerl: 3,025 votes, 86.95 percent
Write-in:454 votes, 13.05 percent
COUNTY COMMISSIONER DISTRICT 3
Paul Wright: 2,012 votes, 54.22 percent
Becky Felling: 1,430 votes, 38.53 percent
Write-in:269 votes, 7.25 percent
COUNTY COMMISSIONER DISTRICT 5
Beverly Wangerin: 1,781 votes, 52.27 percent
Milan G. Plath: 1,613 votes, 47.34 percent
Write-in13 votes, .38 percent
• State Representative District 18A
Ron Shimanski, (R): 12,312 votes, 63.29 pecent
Eric Angvall, (D): 7,122 votes, 36.61 percent
Write-in: 19 votes, 0.10 percent
• U.S. Representative District 7
Glen Menze, (R) 86,773 votes, 27.67 percent
Collin C. Peterson, (D) 226,394 votes, 72.19 percent
Write-in: 425 votes, 0.14 percent
• McLeod County Soil and Water Conservation District race
SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT SUP DISTRICT 3
Joey Schuft 14,951 votes, 99.22 percent
Write-in: 117 votes, 0.78 percent
SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT SUP DISTRICT 4
Write-in: 929 votes, 100 percent
SOIL AND WATER CONSERVATION DISTRICT SUP DISTRICT 5
Mark Schnobrich 14,925 votes, 99.38 percent
Write-in: 93 votes, 0.62 percent
The first race called in our...
Back to page topThe first race called in our area goes to incumbent Collin Peterson in the U.S. House race.
From the AP:
First-term Reps. Tim Walz of Mankato and Keith Ellison of Minneapolis and Rep. Betty McCollum of St. Paul successfully defended their seats in Congress on Tuesday, and the other two Democrats who represent Minnesota in the House were trying to do the same.
In addition, Peterson, seeking a 10th term, defeated Republican Glen Menze, an accountant and farmer who lost to him in 2000. Peterson, chairman of the House Agriculture Committee, led passage of the federal farm bill this year.
As many of you also probably have heard, Barack Obama was projected as the winner of Minnesota as well.
Doug, Terry and Jorge will have more on local elections soon.
Will the leader be posting...
Back to page topWill the leader be posting the GSL school board results?
If you look above, Jorge has...
Back to page topIf you look above, Jorge has started to post the GSL school board race. Thanks for visiting our site.
Barack Obama is President...
Back to page topBarack Obama is President elect. Gaining California, Oregon and Washington put him over the 270 electoral votes needed.
At last count, Al Franken led Norm Coleman by 4,000 votes with 24 percent reporting in the US Senate. I saw some McLeod County reports that had Coleman up 50-25 percent.
This will be a long sad 4...
Back to page topThis will be a long sad 4 years, until our next presidential election. :(
Coleman now has a 4,000 vote...
Back to page topColeman now has a 4,000 vote lead on Franken with 33 percent reporting.
I also noticed on KARE-11 that with 25 percent reporting, the levy vote at McLeod West had 166 no's and 57 yes's.
Jorge will keep you updated on local stuff. I'll keep you up with other stuff I find.
Anything on the city...
Back to page topAnything on the city elections and the spraying issue?
Radiocat123, as of 10:15...
Back to page topRadiocat123, as of 10:15 p.m., it doesn't appear the Hutchinsonn precincts have been counted yet. So, no results yet on the city elections and mosquito referendum.
(Jorge Sosa is a staff writer for the Hutchinson Leader. He can be reached at sosa@hutchinsonleader.com)
Sorry if the results look a...
Back to page topSorry if the results look a little messy right now. The numbers you see are raw data from the County Auditor's Office. The first number after each candidate's name is the number of votes. The second number is the percentage of the overall vote.
These numbers are being updated every couple minutes and when all precincts are counted, I will format them more prettily for you all.
(Jorge Sosa is a staff writer for the Hutchinson Leader. He can be reached at sosa@hutchinsonleader.com)
Jorge had not had the GSL...
Back to page topJorge had not had the GSL #'s up yet. Thanks for the hard work you guys put in.
Why does the school...
Back to page topWhy does the school referendum show only a couple hundred voting?
There must have been over 3,000 votes cast.
arnijodi, it appears the...
Back to page toparnijodi, it appears the Hutchinson city precincts haven't been counted yet. Stay tuned...
(Jorge Sosa is a staff writer for the Hutchinson Leader. He can be reached at sosa@hutchinsonleader.com)
Jorge is correct. I suspect...
Back to page topJorge is correct. I suspect the only precinct reported thus far for Hutchinson schools is perhaps Lynn or Collin Township. None of the city precincts are reported.
(Terry Davis is a Hutchinson Leader staff writer. E-mail him at davis@hutchinsonleader.com.)
Try this link for the...
Back to page topTry this link for the referendum results:
http://electionresults.sos.state.mn.us/20081104/ElecRslts.asp?CtyCd=00&M...
Honeybear, why must you be...
Back to page topHoneybear, why must you be sad for the next 4 years? Sounds like a lousy way to live. Why not be excited for the possibilities of a new era? Get involved in your community, express your opinions, reach out to your neighbors, look for ways to collaborate with people all over the political spectrum...maybe the next four will be the best yet.
Wow, the school referendum...
Back to page topWow, the school referendum doesn't look too promising. Guess it will never be the right time to spend on our schools. Most of the churches in town seem to have plenty of resources to build new facilities or renovate the old ones. Why can't we afford to do the same for our public schools?
Jorge, Check the school...
Back to page topJorge,
Check the school referendum numbers. They are the same numbers for both questions.
Just watched both speeches from Obama and McCain. Very well said by both gentleman. If they weren't uplifting, I don't know what is.
I just fixed that, Eric...
Back to page topI just fixed that, Eric :-)
-Jorge
The fine folks of hutch can...
Back to page topThe fine folks of hutch can build a million dollar liquor store but can't build a tar-paper-shack when it comes to education.
Just an update on the US...
Back to page topJust an update on the US Senate race:
Franken 755,200
Coleman 755,095
64 percent in....wow
Latest numbers on the clean water act has the 51 percent of precincts reporting, 54 percent voted yes, while 39 percent voted no, and an estimated 8 percent left that part of the ballot blank. The no and non-votes so far add up to an estimated 47 percent.
Well at least the Hutch...
Back to page topWell at least the Hutch school bond (athletics subsidy) got voted down. We'll be sucked dry by Obama so there won't be much for the school anyway.
That is still an open race....
Back to page topThat is still an open race. We are awaiting all three precincts from Hutchinson where the majority of the votes are coming from.
Terry told me that the county is projecting around 90 percent voter turnout. That is awesome.
Tip, are you a plumber thats...
Back to page topTip, are you a plumber thats makes $250,000? If not, don't worry you will pay less tax.
Are you sure its $250K? It...
Back to page topAre you sure its $250K? It seems to have been dropping every time the Messiah and his followers opened their mouth. Last I heard it was down around $100K.
Tip, Do you make $100,000?...
Back to page topTip,
Do you make $100,000? If you do, perhaps you could give a little towards our schools... maybe a little in the offering plate as well... sounds like you are a believer.
Not to mention taxes aren't...
Back to page topNot to mention taxes aren't half the problem. Trickle down economics are going to take on an entirely different meaning with the chosen one. Taxing businesses just means higher prices for us on our goods and services. Did he raise taxes? No. Not directly. Yet, we are still paying more. See, businesses don't pay tax. They price that into their costs and pass it down. Some people just don't get it...
Tip, Let Obama get our...
Back to page topTip, Let Obama get our troops out of iraq... that will free up a few billion.
Shame on all the no voters...
Back to page topShame on all the no voters for the school bond! More and more I wonder why I live in this town - NO PRIDE! And by the way, this was NOT about athletics!!!
i voted NO due to the fact...
Back to page topi voted NO due to the fact that the school is not being well taken care of by those there now also they removed student lockers in the hallway to make room for trophy cases these are more important than a locker ???
I'm not sure who you think...
Back to page topI'm not sure who you think isn't taking care of our buildings. I am a student at Hutchinson High School and personally know some of the maintenance crew and they work every day on maintaining our utilities, general cleanliness, and all-around well-being of the building. It seems as if they are not due to the horrific nature of the school's current state. We would need to double or even triple the size and force of our maintenance crew in order to keep up with the rapidity at which our school is deteriorating. I am sorry that you threw away your vote due to this misinformation.
Also, even though lockers have NOT been removed to make room for a trophy case, there are dozens if not a hundred unused lockers in the building.
Maybe next time around people will do their research and the future students of Hutchinson will get the educational facilities they deserve. Thanks for nothing.
the lockers that were...
Back to page topthe lockers that were removed were along the wall across from the gym to the left when entering through the front doors i know this for a fact because my locker used to be there and i wasnt given this info i was in the school and looked around at it
Who are you trying to kid?...
Back to page topWho are you trying to kid? This was all about athletics and all it has ever been. This town revolves around the HHS athletic system.
Tip, Aren't you a crank...
Back to page topTip, Aren't you a crank tonight. Were some of the improvements for athletics... yes, some of it was. The large majority were for academics. If you have seen the updated and state-of-the-art schools that belong to our conference you would be almost embarrassed to try to compare our early 70's high school and our depression built Park Elementary.
This town pretends to be a place to live, yet has shown over and over not to value the importance of education and our children's academic futures.
It is sad that you see it...
Back to page topIt is sad that you see it that way. Did you go to any of the public meetings? This plan was well thought out and affected students Pre K to 12. I know I will continue to vote yes until this thing gets passed.
The three Hutchinson city...
Back to page topThe three Hutchinson city precincts' results are not in yet. The McLeod County Auditor's Office reports there are a lot of write-in votes on those ballots.
We'll post the updated results as soon as they become available. This will include the City Council race and mosquito spraying referendum.
(Jorge Sosa is a staff writer for the Hutchinson Leader. He can be reached at sosa@hutchinsonleader.com)
2008 Minnesota Election and...
Back to page top2008 Minnesota Election and Question Results:
http://electionresults.sos.state.mn.us/20081104/ElecMenu.asp
In regards to the school...
Back to page topIn regards to the school bond referendum and its failure - if so many citizens and students are embarrassed by our school facilities, you can always open enroll elsewhere. I believe that Dassel Cokato or Litchfield or Glencoe Silver Lake would all love to have you become part of their student body - the state money would follow you to whatever district you would be attending. The fact that the schools are deteriorating is not because our maintenance department is ignoring problems. These folks are doing what they can to keep the buildings safe. It is because the school board refuses to budget for maintenance improvements. Approximately 30 years ago there was a building referendum where the taxpayers were asked for a tax increase to replace the boilers/furnaces at the high school. This referendum passed, but the money never made it to the improvements promised. If I recall correctly, I believe a "budget crunch" caused this money to be directed for something besides what it was intended for. Believe it not, our school board at that time did not provide for those improvements, and thus a lot of trust was lost in the school board. Obviously, this continues today. And to the students who feel that they are being shortchanged because of a lack of a new building, please remember what an education is all about. It isn't about athletics and sports or bricks and mortar, but rather it is about how you will survive in this big world once you leave your parents' home. You, and only you will be responsible for yourself once you are on your own. If any one has toured any college campus, you will note that there is a mixture of old and new buildings. A lot of old buildings, and those folks are beaming with pride with their campuses in spite of the old buildings. That is because they are more concerned with giving their students a good education rather than showing off some new building that doesn't mean a thing if the students wouldn't be there. I don't know of any potential college student who chooses a college because of a pretty new building, but rather they are seeking what type of education that college will provide to them. Get over it folks, if you don't like it, leave and find the school district that will provide a new building you want.
30 years ago!?! wow, you...
Back to page top30 years ago!?! wow, you sure can hold onto a grudge! Well, I guess if we can't look toward the future, I guess we can continue to hold onto the past with white knuckles.
Rather than open enrolling,...
Back to page topRather than open enrolling, why don't those of us who want our children to not have to wear their winter jackets to class all just move out of this God forsaken town? How would you like that Jane Doe? Why don't all the professional people who work in this town and try to contribute to this community, just up and leave and move to a district that actually cares about their schools. Then Jane, when you get sick and need to see a Dr. you can drive to Waconia or somewhere where they actually have nice facilities and actually attract quality people to work in their town. By voting no to new schools you do so much more damage to this town. What kind of message does this send to the teachers we have in Hutchinson? Do you think we attract very many 'teachers of the year' with our facilities? How many reputable colleges are going to actually want a Hutchinson grad that has never had a chemistry lab?? Wake up people, if you're taxes don't go up from new educational buildings, they'll go up because of something else. At least if this had passed, we'd have something to show for our tax increase. These problems in our schools aren't going away and the cost of construction is only going to increase. Oh yeah, I forgot we don't pass bonds in this town. So my kid who graduates is 2016 will get to do so in a 45 year old school...I think not. I'm out of here...your ignorance can be your bliss.
At a loss wrote exactly what...
Back to page topAt a loss wrote exactly what I've been trying to put into words. The bond continuing to fail to pass, over and over, is insulting to our teachers and our students, and I'd be really surprised if my family and I are around Hutchinson for the next vote.
Jane, if you think that running people out of town by failing to pass the referendum is the answer, you're dead wrong. People wonder why Hutch doesn't have Kohl's, Gander Mountain, etc etc etc - because we don't have the population base to support it. And now you know part of the reason why.
The problem with this school...
Back to page topThe problem with this school proposal was that it was too expensive. My property taxes would have gone up $500+ if both plans passed, that’s in the addition of the $500 I already give to the school district. With the county, city and school taxes I pay close to $2400 each year and I’m sure there are many people paying more than that. The bottle line for me is how much more will I have to pay. I’m not against fixing and renovating the school if the proposals are reasonable, but the plans in the past have not been reasonable to me. Those who say shame on us for voting no on these proposals, are you willing to step up to the plate an pay even more than the $1000 I would had to pay?
Isn't it interesting that we...
Back to page topIsn't it interesting that we would vote yes to spray for mosquitoes, but vote no to improve our schools? Seems a little lopsided. What that says to me is that we as a community are more interested in preseving our level of comfort than we are in improving the level of education that our children receive.
If you can fix and renovate...
Back to page topIf you can fix and renovate the school for the cost of mosquito spray I would be all for it. By the way isn't it the teachers that improve the level of education?
It is, but we're talking...
Back to page topIt is, but we're talking about the environment they work in. In my position, my work environment is a significant factor to my productivity. If I'm in the position of shopping around for an new job, I'll consider that environment when making a decision. Likewise, if I'm in a position where the environment is bad enough, I'll look for a new job as a means to improve that environment. The same issue is holds true for learning. My environment affects my ability to learn. If the room I'm in is so unbareably hot, for instance, I won't be able to focus on learning as well as if the temperature was comfortable.
I believe they could fix the...
Back to page topI believe they could fix the environment far cheaper then what they have proposed. The key to passing a school referendum here in town is keeping costs down and putting forth a plan that doesn’t raise our taxes over the roof. I also wish there was other ways besides property taxes that could be used to finance some of these projects.
If the mosquito spraying...
Back to page topIf the mosquito spraying bill was 58.6 million, its just a hunch, but, I am fairly certain we would not be spraying for mosquitoes. A little common sense goes along way.
I voted no, because of the...
Back to page topI voted no, because of the football field, track changes,and new gym . Those are not necessary at this time. I would vote yes, for air conditioning, electrical upgrades, and other necessities,to provide a learning environment.
For those of you who are embarassed by our schools, and our town, since Main St. also is made up of old buildings, I have a truck, trailer, and probably a few volunteers to help you move out.
We don't need snobs in this town. So take your attitude elsewhere.
I don't think it's a matter...
Back to page topI don't think it's a matter of snobbery, Wendy. It's a matter of wanting what is good for our families and our community.
What? No chemistry labs?...
Back to page topWhat? No chemistry labs? Since when? Granted the school district may not have state of the art chemistry labs, but the fact of the matter is, there is chemistry, chemistry labs, etc. offered at Hutchinson High School. Also, physics, and many different science/math courses are offered to our students. If these classes would not be offered, then I believe the school district would be in big trouble with the Minnesota Department of Education. (And if what you say is true that these classes are not offered perhaps a call to the MN Department of Education will get the ball rolling and improvements will be made,) and by the way, if a levy referendum is needed to provide those classes then I would vote yes for that. However, a new building won't get you there!! Teachers and students make a school, not a building!!! And, I have yet to see a teacher leave the Hutchinson School District because of poor facilities. Please enlighten me if we have lost a "great" teacher because of that fact!! Otherwise, get your priorities in order and be somewhat considerate of the taxpayers who would be paying for all of these building improvements you want!! Perhaps get to know your neighbor, and understand how they may be struggling just to pay their bills. Then you may understand why the folks in this area simply cannot afford the type of bond referendum that keeps coming up. I am not sure where all of the folks work who want these improvements, but I would venture to say that most people in this area are working for barely $8.00-$15.00 per hour (and perhaps holding down 2 jobs, too.), plus making a house payment, car payment, utility payments, insurance payments, etc., etc. or are either living on a limited income (Social Security). Like I said before, if you don't like it here, you can always leave. That is the beauty of living in the U.S. You do have choices!!
Janedoe can always leave...
Back to page topJanedoe can always leave too. Based on your constantly negative posts it seems that you don't like living here either. You ripped on someone from Maple Grove commenting on the school a few months back because he wasn't from the district but yet you constantly complain about the decisions the city council makes but yet you have stated many times that you live outside the city limits and have to pay gas to drive into town. So why is ok for you to constantly complain about something you aren't a constituent of but not for the guy from Maple Grove. Please enlighten me. I decided not to vote on the school issue because I did not like the renovating plans but could not in good conscience vote no. I voted yes on the last one. Whether you like it or not schools with amenities do attract businesses and people to town which does help broaden the tax base allowing each person to pay less. You don't have to look too far to see what happens when taxpayers fail to support the school districts as McLeod West will probably not exist any longer. As far as people not trusting the school board why is it that both incumbents got reelected then and I beleive that happened last election too. Apparently people do trust them.
I voted no because i don't...
Back to page topI voted no because i don't see why they just can't update the old. I already pay 1800 a year in property taxes and am not interested in my taxes going up another 500 to a thousand bucks for a brand-spanking new bldg. I have seen the Howard lake, Winsted school buildings(by the way, that was 2 districts combining into 1). Very nice. I just don't think this town has the tax base to support the project they want to undertake. Look at the hi-way 7 and 15 improvements. We didn't need all that. We could have made due with less. Then we would have had more for our kids. We need a more fiscally responsible city council and maybe if the school would spend the money where it was ear-marked for there would be less problems. The school i grew up in out in sd was built back in depression era times, It is still standing today and has been renovated very nicely. For a lot less than new, why can't we do that here, that's all i want to know.
In other words, Be proud of...
Back to page topIn other words, Be proud of what you have. Try not to "Keep up with the Jones'es".
I am blown away at all of...
Back to page topI am blown away at all of the people that are saying how expensive these bonds are when I see so many people in town living in big fancy homes with plenty toys to go around. I completely understand that there are people that are struggling. I happen to be one. But for us to continually vote against these bonds is not going to make them go away. They are only going to get more expensive due to the schools needing more fixes in the future. I'm curious how many people have actually taken the tours that were offered to show the citizens of Hutchinson why this bond was so badly needed. People aren't looking at the big picture. Look at what is happening at McLeod West. Do we want that to be us in a few years because we aren't willing to spend money to make our schools safe for our kids? I'm sick of hearing people say that this is all over athletics. Park & West don't even have athletics & the plan for the high school included many other improvements besides the upgrade to the gym. Our kids need to be able to go to school without worrying if the celing tiles are going to fall on their head while they take their chemistry test. If you have things falling apart at your home, you fix them right? Why shouldn't we do the same for our schools? This isn't going to go away & if you are not happy with the current proposals then maybe you should step up & help figure out another way to go about getting these things done. Don't just sit back & complain...do something about it.
I don't have a problem with...
Back to page topI don't have a problem with the need for upgrades to the school buildings or improvements that need to be made. In fact, I think that we are at/past a crossroads where some decisions need to be made about how to move forward with the facilities, as there are definitely glaring issues that need to be addressed.
What I do have a problem with is the way the information is being presented and the approach/attitude being taken. The message from school leaders and proponents of the bond is that this is about pride and that we are embarrassed about the school buildings that we have.
If we are merely in competition with schools in the Missota conference to see who has the nicest facility, that is the wrong reason to vote for a referendum. If the goal of building new facilities is to draw Doctors to town, that is the wrong reason to vote for a referendum. If we are constructing a new football field because the NCAA says that football games should not be played on fields that run East-West, that is the wrong reason to vote for a referendum.
Emphasize to me that the buildings are falling apart. Tell me that we are wasting $x per year on heating and cooling buildings with bad HVAC and boilers. Tell me that we are going to spend a lot of money to make improvements that are critical needs because we absolutely cannot function and learn without them. Once I hear that those are the main reasons for a referendum - and not pride or embarrassment - I will listen and vote yes.
I voted No as well. I live...
Back to page topI voted No as well. I live in Hutch and pay high taxes here. My reason is that we all need to tighten our belts, these next years are going to be tough on all of us. Maybe what the citizens of Hutchinson need to think about is spending their money in Hutchinson and making Hutch a strong business community. Support your local businessess, quit running to Mpls, St. Cloud etc.. and I am speaking to the school district as well. When your business community is supported your school district will be supported. Take a minute and think honestly where u shop, is it Hutch?did you look in Hutch first
and couldn't find whatever it is that you needed and then went elsewhere or did you not look at all? This is a honest question for all of the employees of the school district, think about where u spend your money. Something to think about.
For everyone who voted no on...
Back to page topFor everyone who voted no on any school issue PULL YOUR HEAD OUT OFF YOUR BUTT!!!!!!!!
Prices don't go down on things like this prices go UP. Look at what has happened to McLeod West. Because of everyone saying "oh I can't afford to pay for our futures(our children) education" we no longer have a school. And this started a long time ago, with people not wanting to raise taxes and pay more. Well taxes are a fact of life, get over it! We have to pay them that's the way we have set it up, and that's the way it is.
As I read all the posts they sounded so familiar, all the stupid excuses people make not to support our children, our future, our schools. I'm glad my grandparents had more since then most of the people around today. They knew that everything revolves around school, they used to build the schools themselves and it wasn't one or two families it was the entire community. Communities don't help each other anymore, there is so much selfishness in today's world it's sad.
We all live in a sad place today, a very sad place.
Since your so willing to pay...
Back to page topSince your so willing to pay the higher taxes for these huge school proposals, maybe you should set up a school fund and start contributing $1000+ per year.
I sure after a while you could put forth a hefty amount to build that gymnasium they wanted.
Nice. Real mature - "pull...
Back to page topNice. Real mature - "pull your head out of your butt". Thanks to your insult and the negative attitude from others toward those that voted no, I feel pretty good about how I voted and pretty much have decided how I'm going to vote on the next school bond (and I bet you won't like that vote either).
lala is from McLeod West,...
Back to page toplala is from McLeod West, read her comment again, it says "look what happened to McLeod West, & we no longer have a school". So it is safe to send your kids to Hutch schools, northoftown
As far as 20 year old history books that livelaughlove talks about. I will say yes to new books if I find out Hutch schools are using old materials. I will even head up a fundraiser.
It's that attitude that gets...
Back to page topIt's that attitude that gets us where we are at today. You do it not me. There was a post on the savethemightyfalcons website this morning and I think it fits perfect. I didn't post it but thanks to the person who did.
There is an important job to be done,
and EVERBODY expects that SOMEBODY will do it.
ANYBODY could do it, but NOBODY does it.
SOMEBODY gets angry about that because it’s EVERYBODY’S job.
EVERBODY thinks that ANYBODY should do it,
but NOBODY realizes that EVERYBODY would not do it.
Finally EVERYBODY blames somebody
when NOBODY does what ANBODY can do.
Think about.
McLeod West is the way it is...
Back to page topMcLeod West is the way it is because the school board thought if they let things go long enough that the district would vote yes for a new school...oops...that went the wrong way. And as far as Hutch they will be the next McLeod West, but then again who cares?
Being somewhat new to Hutch,...
Back to page topBeing somewhat new to Hutch, how long has it been since the last school vote passed? Just curious....
BassMan, I'm not sure of the...
Back to page topBassMan,
I'm not sure of the year but at Park Elementary they were still teaching, "the world was flat". I believe they called it Ark Elementary back then...
Maybe Hutch should look at...
Back to page topMaybe Hutch should look at doing a sales tax increase? Willmar has one why not try it?
Now I see that some folks...
Back to page topNow I see that some folks are comparing the Hutchinson School District to McLeod West. Please don't compare apples to oranges. The reason that school district cannot pass a bond is because of bitter feelings between Brownton and Stewart dating back several generations. So, because of those bad feelings, a bond referendum will never become a reality. If the students could vote, it would be different because they seems to get along just fine. However, because the parents are paying the bill, they get to vote, and like I said the bad feelings towards each other emerge. The reason Hutch cannot pass a bond is because the taxpayers are just tapped out, plain and simple. It's not that they won't vote for it, they just cannot vote for it. If your taxes were going to increase $400-$500 per year (just school district taxes), of course you cannot vote for that. Plus add in the increases of the City and County, and pretty soon you will see folks leaving the City because they cannot afford to stay. So, if you think that middle to lower income families are going to accept paying for a bond referendum just to keep the rich and well-to-do professionals happy, then I think you had better think again. This is a perfect example of what is wrong in our country today. And you are correct, I no longer reside in Hutchinson and I cannot vote for a referendum in the Hutchinson School District. However, I do work in Hutchinson, and if the taxes continue to increase, my employer may find it necessary to "cut back" and I will lose my job. Think about that fact when putting your hand out for increased taxes. It may affect more than the local City of Hutchinson residents.
So why were you ripping on...
Back to page topSo why were you ripping on the guy who voiced his opinion from Maple Grove. It could be he was someone who commutes a long ways or owns a business in town. For some reason you are applying a double standard between yourself and the gentleman from Maple Grove.
Absolutely pathetic! All...
Back to page topAbsolutely pathetic! All this negativity.
First, I want to say to the voters of this community, congratulations on another mistake by not approving the school bonds AGAIN! After the last attempt, the school board asked the coomunity why they voted no and asked what the community is looking for. They asked for citizens to attend meetings and take tours of the school buildings. The attendance at these meetings was very low. The areas of concern that the school board were made aware of were researched and eventually plans were brought about addressing them concerns. It was added to our ballot yesterday and AGAIN it was voted down. What are you people thinking?
Contrary to many, I actually thought it was a good time to pass this AGAIN, the local economy needs a boost and that would have been acomplished my local contracts being awarded when possible. It would also help the local economy when people would actually want to move into this town with the improved school district. Schools are the #1 item for most famalies that are looking at relocating. With the struggling economy, building materials can be purchased at better prices.
Yes, the economy is suffering locally and nationally. We all know this but we need to do something here with our local school district and by this not passing AGAIN, we are endangering our community every time this happens. It depends on where you stand, some think half empty and some think half full. Some think the school is fine and those that school here need to deal with what we got. If the enrollment continues to drop, they say so be it. When the school district has declining enrollment, they lose money. When the district loses money, the district suffers more. Others think we need to improve our schools so we can improve education and enrollemnt. When we improve these two things, it will benefit the entire community. It's an obvious situation but the naysayers in this community cannot realize that.
I do not want to pay more for taxes either but more importantly it is worth the investment in our kids future. What if you do not have kids in school? It still benefits the future of this community. You just need to understand that!!!
I could go on and on but this is not the place for it. There is one more thing that bothered me when reading some of these posts. Those of you that are complaining that you could not afford the $1,000 in increased taxes...GUESS WHAT? If this had passed and it was going to increase your taxes $1,000 then YOU ARE LIVING OUT OF YOUR MEANS. You must live in a home that you cannot afford to begin with and that is why you are stuggling to make ends meet. Enough said for me.
WAKE UP HUTCHINSON!
So when a person bought...
Back to page topSo when a person bought their home the propery taxes are disclosed and they were comfortable with that and it was within their means. But now you want to jack their taxes up 20-30% and if they can't afford it, too bad so sad. Get out. A person living on a fixed income who may have lived in their home 30-40 years and bought it at a fraction of its value now (and there are many in Hutch who would fall in this category) might no longer be able to afford their home because of this tax increase and be forced to sell it. Do you think they'd vote yes?
Sportsnut...How many times...
Back to page topSportsnut...How many times have you moved in your lifetime?
I keep hearing people say "The number one reason people move to a community is because of their school system". Does anyone have proof of this. Unlike most people in Hutchinson, I have moved many times in my career. I won't get into why I ended up in Hutchinson, but the school was not the first thing I looked into. How about the cost of living? Does anyone look at that? I did and despite the high taxes here, the pay compensated for it. Jobs bring people to communities. Affordability brings people to communities. Less stress brings people to communities like Hutchinson. I think we should be doing things for our school system, I just don't think this was the right stuff at this time. I also think this community should be focused on creating jobs, good paying ones. That will bring people in. Once the population base begins to grow, there will be more money to do the "Wants" versus the "Needs". People continue to compare Hutchinson to the suburbs of the Twin Cities. I am sure Wayzata and Minnetonka have a better school building than Hutchinson and everyone would like to live there, so why don't we? Because we can't afford it. The same thing will happen to Hutchinson. We can build a beautiful school with all the bells and whistles, but no one will be able to afford to live here and people won't move here just because of our school. When I have moved around, I look at the academic results of a school system. This information can be found on the internet or any good realtor can get it for you. I don't go tour the building.
If someone has proof that this is the number one reason people choose a community, please provide it. I and many other would be interested in seeing it.
I hope our newly elected city councel members live up to their promises and focus on creating jobs and bringing businesses into this community. The is community has relied on 3M and HTI for a long time and if either of them leave, this community will be in trouble.
To answer B@ssdoctor it...
Back to page topTo answer B@ssdoctor it hasn't been that long. Hutchinson folk are willing to pay for EDUCATION but not bricks and mortar. The last levy was four years ago, and passed. They can say it all they want but this bond did not fail due to lack of support for education. It failed because it was extravagant, wasteful and not focused on EDUCATION.
Wow. Now I have a very good...
Back to page topWow. Now I have a very good reason why not to send my kids to Hutchinson schools. I wouldn't want them to be around people who tell me to pull my head out of my butt. I think you need to stop and think before you type. It's a disgrace to the good citizens of Hutchinson to hear such crude phrases when discussing issues like school budgets.