Does McLeod West have a mold problem? The answer depends on who you ask.
Linda K. May, an Illinois-based nurse and health and safety consultant, believes the students and staff at McLeod West School in Brownton are in possible mortal danger.
Doug Schultz, a spokesman for the state Department of Health, said, “It’s generally not our practice to offer opinions on environmental assessments without doing our own on-site inspection.”
But after Schultz and health department staff saw results of a January indoor air quality investigation at McLeod West, he concluded, “Is the school in imminent danger? No.”
The investigation found some species of potentially harmful mold present in the air in several rooms. Could the mold harm kids and adults at McLeod West? Schultz said, “It’s tricky because every person has different sensitivities, even within normal ranges. Some people respond differently to indoor air contaminants.”
May’s assessment of the same results was decidedly more grim. “This is not something you ignore. This is something you address immediately.”
Test results showed no sign of Stachybotrys chartarum — the notorious “black mold” which produces a neurotoxin — but May believes McLeod West should proceed with caution.
“It’s a deadly, dangerous game you play,” she added. “If you ignore it even at the levels you have, your kids will die. Or at least become seriously ill.”
How bad is it?
These radically different opinions characterize an ongoing debate over the health risks of mold in buildings.
“All buildings will have mold at some level,” said Ron Anderson, a health inspector with the Minnesota Occupational Safety and Health Administration. “The scientific community hasn’t been able to confirm what a harmful level of mold is. And part of that is because it’s different for every person that’s out there.”
Prior to the January investigation, some staff at McLeod West reported allergic symptoms and respiratory concerns, according to Superintendent Tom Hiebert. “Their doctors advised them to check out their working conditions,” he said.
The district brought Musser Environmental Services in to see what was in the air at McLeod West. On Jan. 7, the company measured carbon dioxide, carbon monoxide, temperature and humidity levels. An ultra-fine particle counter and microbial impactor were also used to identify particulate matter and airborne microorganisms.
The results, according to a Feb. 12 letter to the editor by Heibert, were within “normal ranges for airborne mold and particles for schools.” May said someone e-mailed her the letter, which caught her attention.
May, who last year worked with schools in Louisiana, Tennessee, Connecticut and New Jersey on mold issues, espouses “zero tolerance” for airborne mold. She believes the McLeod West School building should close, the students and staff should move to another facility, the district should gut the rooms where mold was detected, and the school should replace its entire heating, ventilation and air conditioning system.
Musser Environmental recommended less stringent measures. To improve indoor air quality, the company suggested stabilizing temperatures throughout the building and bringing additional fresh air ventilation into the building.
In practice, McLeod West will find itself hard-pressed to do even that. Carbon dioxide levels in five testing locations exceed state guidelines for indoor air quality. “We’re aware that it’s not good in this old part (of the building),” Hiebert said, “but we do what we can with what we have.”
“What we did do is, in a couple rooms, we put in air purifiers,” he added. “With the age of this building, we don’t have the ventilation systems needed. We can’t put air exchangers in this building. Could it be done? Yes. Is it economically feasible? No. That’s why we went for that bond issue.”
The district has struggled to maintain its aging facilities following a defeated December 2006 ballot initiative to build a new school. Rising costs of maintaining the district’s aging buildings led the district to close its Stewart campus and move all grades to its Brownton building at the start of this school year.
As McLeod West struggles to keep out of statutory operating debt, the district has little money to overhaul its building.
Mold and the law
In July 2007, the district hired a contractor to remediate black mold found in a classroom and storage room at the Brownton campus. According to a report from Trinity Environmental Specialists, “A roof leak had impacted the ceiling and floor in approximately one-half of room 200 (about 336 square feet). Some visible fungal growth was apparent.”
The company’s remediation efforts included removing affected tile, plaster, insulation and wood flooring. Trinity cleaned and treated exposed surfaces with an ammonia solution and applied a mold-resistant acrylic coating to them. The school then replaced the flooring, tiles, Sheetrock and insulation.
May believes the remediation efforts were inadequate. “They went at it with good intentions but they did not use the right tools for the job,” she said. “You’ve got to go in and literally gut those rooms. It’s not a pretty sight. It might be cheaper to build a new school. You have to remove it all and have zero air counts.”
But, Minnesota OSHA takes a softer stance. “You’ll never get it to where there’s nothing there,” Anderson said.
“OSHA doesn’t have any specific rules regarding indoor air quality,” the health inspector added. “We do have a general sanitation standard. It’s very hard to interpret and enforce. What we would typically recommend is cleaning up any visible mold.”
“It’s really a difficult subject,“ Anderson said. ”I know it’s really an emotional subject. Even if us — as a regulatory agency — can’t do anything, most school districts try to do what they can to address the concerns.”
For more specific results of McLeod West’s recent air quality investigation, see the Leader’s March 11 print edition.
(Jorge Sosa is a staff writer for the Hutchinson Leader. He can be reached at sosa@hutchinsonleader.com)
Well that is just fantastic!...
Back to page topWell that is just fantastic! With the selling of the Stewart school there is no place for these students to go. Why not just close the district and combine with GFW or BLH? My kids go to this school, now I want to go get them out of class and transfer them somewhere else!
do it. everyone in that...
Back to page topdo it. everyone in that district should do it. money and effort are being wasted and they are just prolonging the inevitable. i think blh has a 2 for 1 registration going on so bring a friend. if they get too many people transferring, they might close their borders. i heard they are putting up gaurd towers and barbed wire fences. the national gaurd will be called up. hurry before it's too late. GW is overlooking the whole operation.
I am going to, I am becoming...
Back to page topI am going to, I am becoming convinced this district does NOT have the students best interest in mind. One of my kids was sick for almost 4 days last week and now my youngest has been sick since Saturday. Makes you wonder if the poor air quality and mold are playing a factor in them being sick.
Give me a break! Who is...
Back to page topGive me a break! Who is this lady? I've been employed here for 24 years and I'm still vertical!
What will you guys at the Leader do if we close? You'll have to go to a once-a week format!
no, they will report on all...
Back to page topno, they will report on all the trouble the mcleod west kids are having at their new schools because they are so far behind.
Well, don't know where you...
Back to page topWell, don't know where you went to school, but our kids know enough to capitalize a proper noun and the first word in a sentence.
I would like to encourage...
Back to page topI would like to encourage everyone to not read my story selectively.
Linda K. May is not the only person quoted as a source. Multiple other sources have different views on the severity of the mold issue.
As my story states a couple of times, there doesn't seem to be a consensus within the scientific community about what a harmful level of mold is. May represents one point of view, while some of the other sources I quoted have different professional opinions.
(Jorge Sosa is a staff writer for the Hutchinson Leader. He can be reached at sosa@hutchinsonleader.com)
Come on Jorge....here's a...
Back to page topCome on Jorge....here's a direct quote
“It’s a deadly, dangerous game you play,” she added. “If you ignore it even at the levels you have, your kids will die. Or at least become seriously ill.”
If that isn't yellow journalism, what is?.
Okay so really i don't think...
Back to page topOkay so really i don't think you guys know what the heck you are talking about I have been going to school here since I was in Kindergarten and I have not been sick from anything of such.. so really you should find another school to talk crap about cause im getting sick of this.! really.. I am.. so get your stuff in a group and shut your mouths!
I have been a student at...
Back to page topI have been a student at McLeod West for 12 years now. I am proud to be a student at McLeod West and I appreciate the education I recieve here. McLeod West offers a necessary curriculum and I feel that all this bashing should stop. The teachers, staff, and students all work very hard at McLeod West to be who they are. We deserve more credit than anybody is giving us! We are students trying to get an education and what has it come down to, a split between the towns Brownton and Stewart. Both towns are at fault for this and we need to work together and put the education first. I feel like I'm probably preaching to the choir, because everyone should know this by now, but NO everyone acts like they are clueless! At McLeod West we know what we are going through and what problems we have financially. We wish we could fix the problems we have but honestly the money isn't there. Yes, it's true we would appreciate a new building but can we afford it, no. Is the community willing to help? For the most part no. We need the community to get a new school, so if you think your kids deserve to be in a better building that is your choice. The students at McLeod West don't what to be a BLH Mustang or a GFW Thunderbird, WE WANT TO BE MCLEOD WEST FALCONS! I also have a question for you gloppy, How the heck would you know that we are far behind? (which we aren't) You would need a proper student to test that knowledge and I don't believe that you have had that chance. The students who want to be at McLeod West try hard and they are educated just as good as anyone else and if you want to take that up with me you can, because I am a student at McLeod West and I would know.
It's funny when someone...
Back to page topIt's funny when someone tries to make a comment about his or her "wonderful" education and he or she ends the comment by saying he or she is "..educated just as good as anyone else." You must mean you are educated just as "well" as anyone else.... or, more likely, you're not...
I am also a student at...
Back to page topI am also a student at McLeod West high school, and I have a bit of a different opinion from some of my peers posting recently on this subject.
First of all, I would like to say that, although there have been alot of stories representing McLeod West as a sinking ship in the past few months, I am still very proud to be a MW Falcon. HOWEVER, I do feel that there comes a time when "School Pride" must stop and "Common Sense" (hence my alias" must come into play.
I just want you all to understand, before you misinterpret this post, that I love my school very much. I have come up in this school, and have received not only an excellent education (gauged not by performance among my peers, but on nationally accredited tests) but also the love and care from my teachers and peers.
Now that I have established that, I would like to explain what I mean when I say "common sense". For the past, 2-3 years I would say, there has been a definite feeling that things are begging to come apart at our school. People may not agree, but this is a personal observation. Amongst the students, there have been definite expressions of deep concern involving their futures, as well as the future of our school. Now, I'm no finance expert, but I think it's safe to say that MW won't be running as a K-12 for very much longer. They are now planning on taking major cuts in their curriculum over the next 1-2 years, leaving them with a significant decrease from the electives they offer presently (which still isn't an impressive amount). Also, with the sale of the Stewart Building eminent (or final- I'm not positive on this subject), this means MW is planning on remaining in the Brownton campus for the rest of their years. With the release of an article like this, which may or may not be fact, it sends a bit of a scare through the heart of someone who is in this building 8 hours a day, or more, 5 days a week.
Now, I'm not here to tell anyone what to do with their education, that is their own choice. I am here to express to you, from my perspective and EXPERIENCE in this school (because many provide opinions but have never even been to our school) what I feel is common sense. The most recent campaign slogan for the MW supporters has been, "Let's stick together", but I feel it's time we move on. WAIT! Before you get upset and start blogging about how asbsurd my statements are, let me explain.
With the way things are looking in the future for MW (reduced curriculum, deteriorating facilities, falling enrollment) can you honestly tell yourself that your kids will be receiving the BEST possible education they could be receiving? I don't feel so. And I know it's not about the facilities, it's about the teachers inside them, but MW has cut many of their faculty just in the last week. It's not even about just the BUILDING anymore. Frankly, it's about the KIDS. I understand that MW is doing the best job they can with the resources they have, and for years this has worked excellent, but I think now is the time to draw the line. There comes a point when you must make a decision you may not like, but is BEST for you, or your child. If that decision is to stay in the MW district, than I more than respect that decision (that's the decision I made) and I hope and pray every day that something happens that turns this terrible situation around @ MW. But for now, you know where I stand.
I respect what you say...
Back to page topI respect what you say commonsense and for the most part I agree. I understand that McLeod West is taking a risky chance by cutting electives, but as you stated/know it's our only option. At this point, what else is there to do?
It's true, it's time to move on, we need to forget what has happened in the past and move on. What has happened in the past is obviously affecting us now, but as we move forward we need to keep the insight at McLeod West positive. It's time to move on, but as we move on we NEED to stick together. If we start to stick together I feel that the future for McLeod West is very believeable, but if we continue on the way we have been, the future at McLeod West is not going to be good. I respect what your saying and as a junior at McLeod West, I can only hope for the best of the students who will have a rough next couple of years. I also can only hope that all those younger kids at McLeod West who are proud to be here can graduate here, as they wish too.
As a student at McLeod West I walk through the halls everyday hoping that something will turn this thing around. I am so sick of hearing all the negative talk and I just wish there was some way I could encourage the students. I feel so much for the students at McLeod West and I just want the best for all of them, but as I hear this negative talk going on, my hope starts to decrease. I try so hard to not lose hope in McLeod West everyday and that's what keeps me going. McLeod West has gave me so much, I only hope that it can give to the younger students at McLeod West as much as it gave to me.
"Oh yes, the past can hurt. But the way I see it, you can either run from it, or... learn from it. "
-Rafiki, Lion King
are you really a student at...
Back to page topare you really a student at mcleod west? i'm just wondering why you would have a name stating that you are proud to beat mcleod west. i could see someone from a different school being proud to beat mcleod west, but not actually someone who attends mcleod west. oh it's all so confusing.
In response to...
Back to page topIn response to "falconalumnus", I don't have time to play these childish games. I was just trying to make a point, and if that's what you recieved from what I said, then good for you. Don't blame my one, little grammer error on McLeod West education. I don't know where you've been, but nobody's perfect.
Well, certainly you're not...
Back to page topWell, certainly you're not perfect... try to spell more like this: "receive" - "grammar" - "McLeod West Education"
Who are you to say that we...
Back to page topWho are you to say that we are in "Imminent Danger" you are just loading words into peoples mind and how would you know your from ILLINOIS and we are from Minnesota. To everyone who is saying such nonsense should sweep there doorstep before you sweep someone elses.
I just want to say that I...
Back to page topI just want to say that I think we need to start listening to the children around the area. There are so many that are being more adult than the adults around here. It isn't about us it's about the kids and I think there are many that aren't thinking about the kids like they should. I lived in the cities for 6 years and the biggest seller there for private schools was the small class sizes, the teachers with years and years experience. And yet here people complain that the class sizes are so small and the teachers have been here forever.
I don't know what the answer is but both of my children want to stay at McLeod West. I hope they both will be able to stay, but only time will tell.
my children would like to...
Back to page topmy children would like to stay up past midnight and watch south park. that doesn't mean i'm going to let them.
i was just noticing...
Back to page topi was just noticing something. bigmouth says he/she has been employed at mcleod west for 24 years. i was looking at the times of his/her posts. you sure do have some funny break times at mcleod west. what exactly is your function there that allows you to make posts at 10:10, 10:22, and 10:35? most people only get a 15 minute morning break. maybe they should investigate how employees of mcleod west are using their time. this employee took at least a 25 minute break. i bet a real school like blh and gsl don't allow this sort of misuse of time. i bet you even found time to warm up your bottle of milk and drink it. tsk tsk
talk about someone who has...
Back to page toptalk about someone who has alot of freetime.
i am....
Back to page topi am.
Maybe s/he's on their prep...
Back to page topMaybe s/he's on their prep time....maybe you'd know that every teacher gets 1 hour of prep time everyday at least.
I am also a student at MW....
Back to page topI am also a student at MW. Who is not afraid to have his identity known. I have been at McLeod West for 8 years, but I love this school and I would like to see it thrive.
I don’t know who this consultant is, and if her sources are creditable, but why would you say something like this
“It’s a deadly, dangerous game you play,” she added. “If you ignore it even at the levels you have, your kids will die. Or at least become seriously ill.”
Telling kids that if they go to this school they will die, I am not saying that our school has air pollution problems. I’m sure there are other schools that have this problem; I don’t doubt that fact, but still why you would say something like that
Yes, granted now that our school is making cuts to the point where it wouldn’t be real possible to get a good education, but it is our own fault as voters for ignoring the problem until the very last minute. Now we are in so far in debt that we can’t save the district with out making serious cuts which would make it hard to get a good education.
Commonsense is right its time to move on you can’t get a good education if you have to cut teachers. I made the decision along time ago when this all started to stay in the MW district, because I thought that the voters would at least pass an operating levy to keep the district afloat but it didn’t happen. I kept having faith and kept hoping that the district would thrive, but unfortunately we are now to the point that even if this one year plan works we will probably lose too many students to even remain open
It’s suppose to be about the kids but in my opinion that’s not the case anymore it’s about our own personal interest and if anyone owes some one an apology in this district, the citizens in this district owe the students an apology.
I am proud to be a McLeod West student
how sweet. the teachers are...
Back to page tophow sweet. the teachers are letting the students cut class so they can post online. i'm touched. does anyone have a kleenex?
Excuse me GLOPPY, but some...
Back to page topExcuse me GLOPPY, but some people have a prep hour where they plan there day.. and the rest of the week and i think his/her prep time was during that hour and maybe you should get a JOB.! haha! and because he was writing on this wall he much be AHEAD of schedule.!
good point. so instead of...
Back to page topgood point. so instead of finding something to do, he/she plays on the internet.
GLOPPY GET A JOB. and stop...
Back to page topGLOPPY GET A JOB. and stop talking about our school.! our school must be good cause there are plenty of people that sticking up for our school. and im sure Bigmouth is responding to all of this cause he CARES about our school!...
Yes there are two paths you...
Back to page topYes there are two paths you can go by
but in the long run
There's still time to change the road you're on
Ah, a Led Zeppelin fan in...
Back to page topAh, a Led Zeppelin fan in the Leader reader realm.
(Terry Davis is a Hutchinson Leader staff writer. E-mail him at davis@hutchinsonleader.com.)
Ok, I have been a student at...
Back to page topOk, I have been a student at McLeod West for 2 years and yes, I know that isn't very long but, I love this school and I don't think there is anything wrong with it. And Gloppy, shut your mouth! Do you go to McLeod West? No, I didn't think so! So if you have never even gone to our school then how do you know what our school is like huh? So get real and stop talking crap about it because it's not right.
McLeod West Lover!!!
take a pill. he is probably...
Back to page toptake a pill. he is probably just trying to rattle some chains.
That might be, but it's...
Back to page topThat might be, but it's making people mad. He/she has NO right to say that stuff about OUR school. If you are going to say stuff about another school, can't you do it with a little respect?
it probably doesn't matter....
Back to page topit probably doesn't matter. gloppy hasn't posted in a while. chances are your friends at the hutch leader took care of him.
Enough already about...
Back to page topEnough already about McWest... how long do we have to read and re-read hash and re-hash about the McWest schools. Enough! Times are a changing... if Osseo has to close two schools and lay off 125 staff members it shouldn't be much of a shocker that the farm schools must close as well. Hutch remains open due to 100 year-old elementary schools and old out dated high schools... times are tough, if tax payers refuse to pay for updated then make due. We should feel lucky... we have a 1.2 million dollar liquor store and million dollar tunnel and soon to have a silly round-a-bout. Didn't we have a big shot water fountain in our carp filled river... lets write posts about the fountain. If you folks from McWest have our fountain please return it.
In response to Andrew...
Back to page topIn response to Andrew Zellmann and all the students. The citizens of this district do NOT owe any apoligies. The problem lies within the decision making of our very own school board. THEY are the ones that make the final decisions as to what is going to happen to the future of McLeod West. They need to listen to what citizens are saying and do some compromising along the way. You need a balance of give and take...not just take. They haven't done that to this day! It doesn't take a genius to figure out the terrible decisions that they have made and will undoubtly continue to make. Go to a meeting and see for your self how they work. The students are taught to work together and respect others while our very own school board which consists of adults can't seem to to acomplish this task. I think every body needs to look at what has happened to our school board. They have lost 5 board members in 1 year. Does that tell you anything? A school board that can't get along or work with each other or the citizens isn't a school board that is going to get the task done that lies ahead for this district. They really haven't done any thing to make the situation better. WHAT ARE THEY WAITING FOR?? The only thing they have accomplished is ending careers of some good teachers and upsetting the public with how they are wasting time and money and getting nowhere. Mr. Boyer (who was hired by our school board) was supposed to be the person to help McLeod West and the school board has gone against his proposals already. Does that make any sense?? What do we need him for if they're not going to listen to him any way. It's a waste of time and money that we don't have. I hope the students can understand that every thing that happens to McLeod West starts with our school board so start talking to them....maybe THEY will listen to your hearts. I feel for you students as well as the teachers and hope you can all make a stand for your selfs, show some guts and let the school board no that they need to start listening to the people and try to make both towns happy or this will fail for sure. GOOD LUCK TO ALL!!
Tisk Tisk Tisk... now lets...
Back to page topTisk Tisk Tisk... now lets get a few things understood. McWest's problems began long before any of the last two boards were ever elected. To suddenly point the finger at them without looking at the big picture is wrong and very far from what is true. To say the board is pushing teachers out is also silly... lack of income, pushy parents, and unmotivated students are more to blame than any silly board member will ever be. I think members of both towns were more interested in pull-tabs than in what was actually happening in the schools... could they have done something...maybe... but the fate of small town schools is fading fast. It would be a romantic thought if we could keep every school open that wanted to be, but to do so is very costly. Bigger is not better when it comes to a better education, but bigger allows them to remain open.
THIS SCHOOL BOARD IS MAKING...
Back to page topTHIS SCHOOL BOARD IS MAKING THE DECISIONS NOW NOT THE PREVIOUS BOARDS!! And i didn't mean they are pushing teachers out..but the decisions they have made have forced this issue. I think it could have been avoided with some team work. And when you say "silly board member" you couldn't have said it any better. I will go along with the rest of your thoughts though.
The current board is making...
Back to page topThe current board is making decisions based on what was or was not done in the past decade. I assume that there were many warning signs that were shrugged off over the years that now have become giant warts that need urgent treatment. Ignorance and politics probably did play a part, yet the fact-of-the -matter has not changed... the towns of Brownton and Stewart are dieing... almost dead in fact if you look objectively. It doesn't mean that the people were or are less, just that there is no longer the population base to reproduce students or the tax payers to make this work! I am no fan of board members and have no clue why anyone would want to do such a thing, but to blame them for this mess is not fair. To blame them for things like global warming and such might be more fun.
If there is no State or...
Back to page topIf there is no State or Federal Guidelines on how much mold is bad, then how can there be "mortal danger"?
I went to school there and graduated, never had any problems with "mold sickness" or anything else, McLeod West is a GREAT school, with GREAT teachers!
I would go as far to say McLeod West is BETTER then ANY school in the area!
I love McLeod West, and...
Back to page topI love McLeod West, and would do anything to help keep this school afloat. Sometimes enough is just enough, now it is time to start thinking of options for my children and what next year will hold for them. We moved to Brownton for the soul purpose of my children attending McLeod West and to receive the same schooling I did. I have been to board meetings and NOT once have they accomplished anything at these meetings, listened to what the parents/students had to say or Mr. Boyer. It hurts to say that maybe it is time to move on, my children will not continue to be stuck in the middle of the he said/she said games between the district nor will I allow them to suffer with the lack of activities, sports and curriculum. I don't know about anyone else but to me, ANY kind of mold in the school is NOT acceptable. I pray McLeod West can be saved, but until then other schools will be researched for my children to attend next year.
I'm sorry but this whole...
Back to page topI'm sorry but this whole thing is rather amusing grown adults fighting with kids, it's just like war, only know one is winning.
Where not gaining anything by doing this.
"Where not gaining...
Back to page top"Where not gaining anything..."
"...only know one is winning."
Bigmouth, I think you have some work to do.
Congratulations, you have...
Back to page topCongratulations, you have pointed out that I have spelling errors would you like a medal for it?
Yes...
Back to page topYes
I am a senior at McLeod West...
Back to page topI am a senior at McLeod West High School, and I have a few things to say about these arguments, and the article that was posted in the paper. I would first like to say that we DO know that our school will be closed sooner or later. There is no reason to write such articles that put our school down like this. Almost every big building like our school has had or has a mold problem to a certain severity. As far as I know, we are dealing with the issue, but we are NOT going to die from this problem. It's understandable to be mad about a thing like this, but it's an unavoidable situation that's being dealt with.
Next I would like to bring up the issue on students being behind in classes at McLeod West. There is no reason for a student to fail a class at McLeod West, or at any other school, except that they aren't trying. It all depends on how much effort the student is willing to put in. As a student who has had first hand experience at failure, I would know that it's possible to succeed here. The classes are just as challenging here at McLeod West as they are at any other school.
As for Bigmouth spending school time posting blogs on here, he/she is one of the best teachers I have ever had. That person spends a lot of time making sure that the students here are learning something from him/her. And they are! At least the students who actually care and apply themselves are. As for BLH, they miss full hours of class for more stupid things than an article criticizing their school. Such as an assembly on why a few of their students tried to light the McLeod West Stewart campus gym on fire. And they most definitely have more full school days and half days off then we do here at McLeod West. For the great GFW, they can't even afford to give out books to their students.
I'm not here to make everyone more mad, i just want you to realize that McLeod West isn't any different than any other school around here. All or our schools dealing with issues, don't bring just McLeod West down.
I have been at McLeod West...
Back to page topI have been at McLeod West Highschool for 2 years. And I've already learned so much. And one thing that I've learned is..Money isn't everything.
It doesn't make the world go round. And in my point of view. It seems as if you are just saying these things to get our school to close for money. Yes, I understand that our school is in debt. And that is a place where money does matter and it has caused problems. BUt, I believe that its our pride and joy of our school that will help us stand. And THAT, my friend, is something we will NEVER run out of. Do you really think your critisism wil make us back down? We are much stronger that that. Im pretty sure if one our your guy's school was being criticized, you would stand up for what you believe in as well. So criticizeour school. But, we are STILL STANDING. We our one school, one faculty that is going to stand up for what belive in which is our school!
Keep beliven' McLeod West!! We will prevail!
I am proud to be a McLeod West Student! GO FALCONS!!
Interesting that these...
Back to page topInteresting that these current students of McLeod West are doing all their posting during School hours.
When the School Board chose to close the Stewart Campus, I am convinced it was the death knell for McLeod West. Enrollment is down to just a handful over 300, and the Kindergarten class is only 14. The handwriting is on the wall and I believe it's only a matter of time before the district is finished. A previous poster said money isn't everything, but in a school district it's everything. The district is just not sustainable with so few students. And that's a fact of life, sorry.
Maybe students get prep time...
Back to page topMaybe students get prep time too.
maybe you shuld do a little...
Back to page topmaybe you shuld do a little reserch before you coment.
maybe you shuld do a little...
Back to page topmaybe you shuld do a little reserch before you coment.
Maybe the teachers at McLeod West need to work a bit on their students Spelling and English Grammar skills.
I really don't think it's...
Back to page topI really don't think it's the students (or teachers for that matter) fault for grammar or spelling errors...we do live in the day & age of text messaging on cell phones, and the quicker you can type the better. There isn't anything wrong with abbre. (abbreviating) any chance u (you) get, is there?! idts...(I don't think so)
It's a little bit funny how...
Back to page topIt's a little bit funny how the person criticizing the spelling and grammar in other posts capitalizes those words as if they were proper nouns and also doesn't use the possessive form for student's.
"your kids will die. Or at...
Back to page top"your kids will die. Or at least become seriously ill.”
That caught my attention! So I did a little research. I read the mold information on the website of the Department of Health and Human Services Center for Disease Contol & Prevention. I couldn't find anything on anyone who has died from mold. There is a POSSIBLE link to INFANT death and STACHYBOTRYS CHARTARUM. I don't think infants attend our school and quote from the article " Test results showed no sign of Stachybotrys chartarum — the notorious “black mold”. From everything I could find the effects from mold would be some type of allergic reaction depending on the person. It COULD be more serious for someone with asthma. My child has asthma. My child with asthma goes to school there and yet has not had to use asthma meds since last spring (allergy season). My child will continue to go to school there. Why? Because I don't believe the mold problem is as serious as Jorge's article suggests. In fact the info I read from the government was nothing like the opinion of consultant for hire - Linda May.
I do believe there is some mold. I do believe that something needs to be done. I also think this has been greatly exaggerated.
As a resident of the McLeod West School district, what I question is...Was this a news article or a way to stir up trouble?...and isn't it funny that this was printed the same day of the closing on the Stewart building....What timing! :)
That's funny that they...
Back to page topThat's funny that they decided to close the stewart building on the same day this article was printed. I bet they decided to close the building on that day to stir up trouble. I believe Brownton has a newspaper if you don't like this one.
I have a crazy suggestion....
Back to page topI have a crazy suggestion. What if the students are in computer classes, which is a fact, and instead of wasting their free time (after assignments are completed of course), they decide they might come on this site and express their support for their school?
I don't know about you, but I would be more than proud of my child for standing up for themselfs in a situation such as this, when they could easily be screwing around on some gaming site.
THANK YOU! You know, that is...
Back to page topTHANK YOU! You know, that is exactly what we are doing. Standing up for what is left of the school is actually something productive students can do. Especially if they like the school they go to I really see no reason why our school should be hit so hard with these insults and accusations. Our school is carrying on just like any other school would in this situation. At least we are trying to keep this school afloat instead of complaining about it.
I know some people would...
Back to page topI know some people would like to put blame on the school board, but in the end it's up to the community. Once enrollment started to decline, that's what hurt McLeod West and that was not a decision made by the school board.
Okay, this is supposed to be...
Back to page topOkay, this is supposed to be about the issue about mold at McLeod West, is it not?
Why are you guys talking about who all has free time in class and what they are doing with that free time?
I am a student here, and all I have to say is, aren't we all supposed to be mature about this issue? This issue is being taken care of. And all the bashing about our school needs to stop.
Aren't most of you adults? Why are you talking about the teachers and the school board and the students? I do believe this is about a MOLD issue.
Can't we all do this maturely? Act like adults, not five-year-olds. Stop with all the stupid stuff and resolve the issue at hand please. Thank you.
If people want to talk about...
Back to page topIf people want to talk about other issues or angles other than mold they have a right. What right or power do you have to dictate the topic. If the bear's den is mold filled then lets open up the gopher hole.
So what you are trying to...
Back to page topSo what you are trying to say is that we should concentrate on the issue of the original topic and not tell people they act like five year olds or ask them to stop "bashing" your school? Sorry, I missed the part where you talked about the mold issue.
It's not the people on this site that you need to worry about bashing your school, it's those wrecking balls and bulldozers that will be bashing your school in a few years.
Student_of_2008, for someone...
Back to page topStudent_of_2008, for someone who doesn't want others to bash your school, maybe you should stop bashing other schools. OR, at least get your facts straight. As far as the incident you are discussing, that was 2 students that chose to make a bad decision. One of those students was removed from BLH, and the other (who was with, but didn't do anything) was suspended for 15 days. The other students were informed of the punishments, so that it would be shown that things like that would not be tolerated. As far as
"they most definitely have more full school days and half days off then we do here at McLeod West", if you check out both school's websites, you will find that McLeod West had 172 student contact days, while BL-H has 179 student contact days. Last time I checked, 172 was less than 179 - actually, by over a full school week. I don't have any personal experience at GFW, so I won't comment there. I will only comment on the schools I have spent time in, and actually know firsthand.
I don't think people are talking about students being behind in classes at McLeod West, because on this point you are correct. Any student can succeed (or fail) at any school depending on how much time and effort they put in. I totally agree with you there. The point people are trying to make is that when McLeod West students go to other schools, they are behind. I know that all of the McLeod West students that go to BLH after 6th or 7th grade have a real hard time getting caught up in the English classes, and many have troubles in math also.
I'm glad you are proud of your school and if you truly believe in it, you should fight for it. However, you would get more people to listen to you if you stuck to supporting your school and not bashing others. Oh, and always check your facts.
Cologne is building a new...
Back to page topCologne is building a new school... it is called Cologne Academy... maybe some of you dissatisfied with your schools could look into this option. It should be noted that it is a K-4 building... but is free of mold.
ok if you want to talk about...
Back to page topok if you want to talk about the mold, then by all means do, but you are still bashing our school by the remark "free of mold" I have yet to see any mold that is life threatening and as long as the school is getting education across that is what the people want while they are here, who cares? I have been here for 5 years and I am not dead yet.
Has anyone read the...
Back to page topHas anyone read the disclaimer above the comment box? "Please do not post any comment that is abusive, obscene, profane, vulgar, defamatory, libelous, invasive of privacy "
Jeez this whole article is kind of defamatory towards McLeod West.
Perhaps the supporters of McLeod West and the citizens of Brownton and Stewart should boycott this paper. I am going to, never again will I buy a Hutch Leader!
Do you need a hug?...
Back to page topDo you need a hug?
It amazes me that some...
Back to page topIt amazes me that some people are so upset over this article. In 2006 during the two building bonds supporters of McLeod West and the new school were talking about the poor air quality and mold.
June 16 2006 letter:
“We think the first thing that everyone needs to understand is that a new building is not a luxury, it is a necessity. These are old, inefficient, rundown buildings. Anyone that believes differently should tour the schools to see the numerous buckets strewn throughout the school to catch water, the fallen/missing ceiling tiles and various patches of mold that can be found.”
December 2006 letter:
“There is mold in both schools and that could make you sick. At the high school, there are bats somewhere.”
And a flyer with a picture of some of the mold was sent out:
http://x4c.xanga.com/3e0d0453c1c30101730729/w71719390.jpg
That may be true, but they...
Back to page topThat may be true, but they love their school so much. Something like mold and unsafe conditions shouldn't override school pride and sentimentalism. I'm sure the mold problem and everything else that was wrong with the buildings that they claim were so bad that they needed a new building, were magicaly repaired after the bond was defeated.
A little mold won't kill anyone....well at least not everyone.
People of Brownton and...
Back to page topPeople of Brownton and Stewart.
Is your building is such bad shape that you needed a bond for a new building?
or
Is you building in good shape and all of these stories of mold are untrue and there was never any need for a bond in the first place?
Alright, there is no mold in...
Back to page topAlright, there is no mold in this school. There is no trace from the tests done here at school. No reason to keep saying it when it is not true. It is true the school is rundown, however our school is still running just fine. I see no problems in the way the school runs and the students that like this school. I do admit however that this district needs a new school to keep the county afloat but it can't be helped.
"I do admit however that...
Back to page top"I do admit however that this district needs a new school to keep the county afloat but it can't be helped."
Are you saying that the county will disolve if they don't build a new school?