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Girls' hockey: First trip to state ends in 5-0 loss


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It wasn't how Hutchinson wanted to finish their first trip to the Class A Girls' Hockey State Tournament - scoreless and winless.

Still, it was a fun trip for the Tigers, who qualified for state for the first time in the school's 11-year existence.

No. 3 seed Fergus Falls topped Hutchinson 5-0 to advance to the consolation championship at 9 a.m. Saturday. The Otters will play New Ulm, who beat Eveleth-Gilbert 4-3 in the other consolation game.

Blake and Mahtomedi and Red Wing and Warroad will play in the championship semifinals Friday at the Xcel Energy Center.

The Otters jumped out to a 2-0 lead after one period despite each team taking nine shots. Hutchinson controlled play at times, but goals from Katie Anderson and Liz Underwood gave the Central Lakes Conference champions the early lead.

Fergus Falls completely dominated the second period, outshooting the Tigers 18-2 for the period. DI recruit Erika Magnussen and Christina Masten added goals for the Otters.

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Hutchinson played a solid third period, but the closest the Tigers came to scoring was a pipe shot from Fallon Macemon late in the game. Fergus Falls added a power play goal midway through the period for the final difference.

The Otters outshot the Tigers 32-17.

The Tigers end the season with a 14-13-2 record.

Eric Kraushar is the sports editor at the Hutchinson Leader. He can be reached at sports@hutchinsonleader.com.




I just read the article in...

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I just read the article in the paper from Feb. 26th regarding the girls game v.Warroad. I found it very interesting that Head Coach Fabel sold out his goaltenders-again. Shots on goal were 54-6. Now, giving full disclosure, I'm a goalie mom. And there are times I struggle with helping my second grader in math. But, um, if we don't score any goals, doesn't that mean that the first goal was the game winner?

Clearly stopping 42 shots on goal wasn't enough to lift the team to a victory, that's a fact. Both goalies struggled, another fact. But gee whiz, were they the only two on the ice who were responsible for their team? To listen to the coach's quote, it sure sounds like it.

Good thing he has goalies to blame for this loss and not his coaching or anyone else on this team who didn't score goals or stop Warroad's offense. Yup, yup-as my goalie would say...good thing.


Submitted by jep6095 on February 28, 2009 - 11:54pm.

I'm pretty sure Coach Fabel...

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I'm pretty sure Coach Fabel was quoted as saying goaltending was bad but it was a combination of things. Warroad won every aspect of the game. Hutch was very tight...what more can you expect from first timers?

If you think our coaches opinion was harsh (it wasn't, the quality of 5-6 of the goals were bad....but like I said, there's a lot of pressure at state), you should have heard Warroad coach David Marvin on the radio in between peiords of the Red Wing/Fergus Falls game.


Submitted by Eric Kraushar on March 1, 2009 - 12:17am.

The goal tending has been a...

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The goal tending has been a weakness all season long. Are they alone in stopping the other teams attempts.... at times the other five players do not do their jobs and it results in point blank shots on our goalies. A coaches job is to be truthful and honest, if he feels that our goal tending has been lack-luster lets believe him. I thought our goal scoring was as sick and weak and could also be blamed. When you go up against teams that are bigger, faster, and better at handling the puck we sometimes would rather blame our players for being flat or not ready, or that our coaches were not doing a good job... lets just be more truthful with ourselves and admit that the Tigers were not nearly as talented. Our regular season's record was an accurate predictor to what happened to us as we began to play against teams at the state level.
This years team found itself in a soap-opera with their goalies. One had more talent, but was uncoachable and had a very poor attitude and the other was less talented but was much more manageable but was much more open to her team and teammates.
Being a goalie is not as easy as it seems... I'm sure its so much fun shooting and shooting and scoring goals and getting the player of the minute, day, and week awards I'm sure... however working hard on the defensive side of the ice means more than just pointing fingers at your goalies.
Lets just be happy at getting to the state tournament and if it happens again, lets work towards being more competitive. Good job coaches and team!


Submitted by ObamaRama08 on March 1, 2009 - 11:11am.

ObamaRama08 reply...

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ObamaRama08 reply stated:
'One had more talent, but was uncoachable and had a very poor attitude and the other was less talented but was much more manageable but was much more open to her team and teammates.'

That is a very interesting take of team dynamics. You must have some serious insider information on the team as well as quite a bit of knowledge of goaltending. I certainly hope the team is taking advantage of your knowledge.


Submitted by jep6095 on March 1, 2009 - 11:18am.

Jep, I have no tips for the...

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Jep,
I have no tips for the team. They did very well this year. I believe i also stated that others were also responsible and should shoulder the responsibility... not just the goalies. I would very much dislike being a goalie or a parent of one too... feels like they might get too much blame.
When a team doesn't score a single goal themselves in two games, it's probably not fare to blame the goalies for the teams performance. Yet to give up 17 goals in just two games may also be a small glimpse as to the size of the leak somewhere.
Making it to the state tournament is a wonderful achievement... great job!


Submitted by ObamaRama08 on March 1, 2009 - 11:47am.

Eric, none of the issues you...

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Eric, none of the issues you stated had anything to do with my initial comment. You stated:
a-"but it was a combination of things"
No one else was called out in the article. If coach had said, 'a combination of our top two scorers not scoring along with our top two defensemen not defending'...then you would have an argument there. But when he only brings up goaltending, hockey fans know exactly who he's talking about. Mary and Zandra.

b-"what more can you expect from first timers?"
I didn't write anything about first timers at state, I wrote that the coach called out goaltenders in the article and no one else.

c-"the quality of 5-6 goals were bad"
Again Eric, the first goal won the game. The point of my comment, again, was that the coach specifically called out goaltending. Focus:)

d-"if you think our coaches opinion was harsh...you should have heard Warroad coach..."
Eric, again, focus. I didn't say the coach's opinion was harsh. My comment was that he called out goaltending specifically in the article and didn't give responsibility to anyone else, including himself.

So to be clear, let's keep to the facts of my original comment and not muddy it with spin. If you have a direct comment to mine, i.e. it was unfair of me to pick on the poor coach, then go ahead and bring it. But keep clear as to the original comment please.


Submitted by jep6095 on March 1, 2009 - 11:12am.

Jep, When you say our top...

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Jep,
When you say our top two scorers... is there any mystery in that as well? Or our top two defensive players? Anyone who follows girls hockey this year could list off all four players by number and by name. Was the tournament our best effort... perhaps not, but at least they qualified for the tournament.
Sometimes at the varsity level, coaches have to dish out feedback... some of it may feel nice... some not so much. They are to prepare a team for the contest, not be their best friend. There is far more questionable things that come out of the hockey coaches mouth than stating the fact that the goalie play was subpar. Lets face it, both Warroad and Blake pounded several teams in the tournament... why? because they were much better.
Lets enjoy the success and honor of being the first girls team to make the state tournament.


Submitted by ObamaRama08 on March 1, 2009 - 1:46pm.

Gump, Enjoy the season and...

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Gump,
Enjoy the season and the good that happened!


Submitted by ObamaRama08 on March 1, 2009 - 1:51pm.

Jep- I'm sorry if four words...

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Jep-
I'm sorry if four words ("goaltending was not good") buried deep in a game story makes you think Coach Fabel put a 12-0 loss on just the goaltenders. Like I said, if you read his entire quote, he said goaltending was not good, but it was a combination of things (that led to the score).

Clearly with the outcomes at state, it was "they" were just better than "us." In Tuesday's paper, Coach Fabel talks abouts this. It was great to get there. Next time, the team and coaches need to find a way to be competitive, he said.

Regardless of the outcome, it was great experience I'm sure for everybody involved. For the three seniors, it is something they won't ever forget. For everybody else, it's a goal to get back and have a second chance. Congrats Tigers!


Submitted by Eric Kraushar on March 1, 2009 - 12:09pm.

i agree...atleast the tigers...

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i agree...atleast the tigers were able to make it to the state tournament and since it's over i think it would be the adult thing to do to let go of your childish remarks and congratulate our girls. there is no need be attacking any of the players specifically the four girls you mentioned jep. it was a simple comment about goal tending you took too far.


Submitted by missthang19 on March 1, 2009 - 1:14pm.

I"m sorry you're offended by...

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I"m sorry you're offended by my example given. As I stated, it was an example. It was not written, just an example. But clearly you perceived it otherwise and I'm sorry for that.

It is a goaltenders position to be front and center in a loss. One of the former girls 12u coaches said it best, "When a defensemen or wing makes a mistake, no one cares. When a goalie makes a mistake, games could be lost." So calling out goalies is an easy target. Calling out any other players, as was the example above, is not acceptable to some.
You have proved my point.


Submitted by jep6095 on March 1, 2009 - 1:41pm.

This is quite a string of...

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This is quite a string of posts. As someone who enjoys local hockay and follows both highschool teams, and someone who just read these posts, I have a numbers of comments.

1. I think jep has a valid point. It was unprofessional and insensitive to the two goalies to specifically call them out. If Coach Fabel had stated something to the effect "... our goaltending was poor, our offense was poor, our defense was poor, and our coaching was poor ..." it would have been a fair and balanced statement. To say that the goaltending was poor and there were 'other issues' does - whether intentional or not - call out the two goalies in particular. I think it is reasonable to hold Coach Fabel accountable for his comments.
2. The idea of being happy just to be there is lame. If the team had played to their full capability and lost, that's one thing - but in this case the team (meaning the entire TEAM) didn't play to their full capability most of the season and in the tournament they didn't bother to play at all. They showed their capability early in the year and in their playoff run but most of the season they were a disinterested team just going thru the motions. Their perfomance and record show this pretty clearly. The respoonsibility to be ready to play falls on all of them. Players need to be ready to play and coaches need to be accountable to make sure that the players are ready to play.
3. Obama - you stated that one goalie was more talented but uncoachable with a poor attitude and the other was less talented but was more managable and more in tune with her team. That reaks of inside information. If you have this type of inside information either be upfront and say how you know this or don't say it at all. You say this year was a soap opera - it seems that you may be one of the main actors. I don't know this to be true - and to be honest I don't care - but it is really easy to thow out statements like that under an anonymous username.


Submitted by biteme on March 1, 2009 - 3:27pm.

i do not believe that being...

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i do not believe that being happy at the idea of being at the state tournament for the first time in program history is lame biteme. i honestly can't believe you would even think that. it shows heart that they got there and actually had to work as a whole team to get there. it is not about one wing, one defensemen, or one goalie. blame is falling on one or two players and i agree, that is not fair at all, they went there as a team and they fell as a team. however, is this not supposed to be about the girls? why not get mad at the people who are blaming the goalies instead of making comments about the players or other fans for being excited the girls had the chance to go. i do not appreciate being referred to as lame for being excited for our girls to the the chance to play the state tournament. maybe that is just me...


Submitted by missthang19 on March 1, 2009 - 7:00pm.

Missthang19 - I have not...

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Missthang19 - I have not referred to you, or the girls, or the coaches, or the fans (I am one of them) as lame. I simply stated that the IDEA of explaining away a poor performance by by saying 'we're just happy to be there' is lame. It is an accomplishment to make it to the state tournament - no doubt. But what has been missed with the 'happy to be there' stance is that the team had a chance to showcase themselves in front of a huge audience and they didn't take advantage of it. That had nothing to do with who they were playing or the outcome of the game. As I stated before, whether the won or lost is not the point. The point is they had a chance to play against the best in the state, and they chose not to compete. By all means celebrate the accomplishments of the team, but it would be a disservice to everyone to ignore the failures and not take steps to address them. We learn from our mistakes - as long as we don't ignore them or explain them away.

As far as getting mad at people for blaming goalies, or being mad about anything - I am not. I have no direct link with anyone involved. I just enjoy the game of hockey and I try to attend as many games as I can during the winter season. I read the string of posts and thought that jep6095 had a legitimate point. Instead of discussing the point it turned into many people (Eric, ObamaRama, yourself)trying to redirect the discussion. I still think that jep6095's point has yet to be addressed. Maybe it is time to get back to that ... Coach Fabel specifically called out the goalies and did not mention anyone else. Any comments about that?


Submitted by biteme on March 1, 2009 - 8:36pm.

I'll make one last comment...

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I'll make one last comment and then I'm closing this thread because it has run its course.

What gets put in the paper is a small percentage of what I hear from players/coaches. As a reporter, you use the "best stuff." I did not specfically ask Coach Fabel to comment on the goaltending, but I did ask him for his general comments on the 12-0 performance. He said all sorts of things - one being goaltending, other things such as being tight to begin the game and other reasons for the loss.

I didn't write the story as to blame anyone. Like MissThang19 said, you win as a team, you lose as a team. Anybody who read the game story in Thursday's paper and thought anyone was blaming the goaltenders has an axe to grind.

Coach Fabel did say goaltending wasn't good, but in no way did he say it was the sole reason for the loss. And those other reasons were quoted earlier in the story, because being tight and being first-timers to state playing the No. 2 team in the tourney were the main reasons for a loss. Anybody who watched that game, or read the story, or heard accounts can safely say to lose 12-0 it is a complete team breakdown.

Like I said before, be proud that the Tigers made it that far. They were the first team I covered at state since the first weeks of my employment spring of 2006 with the baseball team. The girls get to hang a banner next to the boys' three (hopefully four) and all 16 girls got a chance to skate at the X and say they played in the state tourney. Regardless of outcomes, it was a big deal to the team and hopefully the community.


Submitted by Eric Kraushar on March 1, 2009 - 9:26pm.

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